Roger Smelly Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 True but you re-coup the cost back when the compost is sold don't you ? And also seeing as waste to the energy from waste plant is set at £120 a ton it has to be cheaper to compost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 True but you re-coup the cost back when the compost is sold don't you ? And also seeing as waste to the energy from waste plant is set at £120 a ton it has to be cheaper to compost it. Local authorities pay £10 per ton at the incinerator - and pay £20 a ton to compost. And the company not only get paid to do the composting, they get to sell the product and keep the result. Good luck to them on that, but the local authorities get nothing from the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger lily Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 why my man makin shitti smellin midgi compost if ministir burnin his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Local authorities pay £10 per ton at the incinerator - and pay £20 a ton to compost. Sita charge £100 per ton for waste at the incinerator, a rate set by the government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 Well in the uk alot of farmers are using the compost that is produced and is spread on the fields as a top dressing. Composting is not expensive all you do is turn it weekly for 12 weeks and then leave it to mature for another 12 weeks. All they need to do is create a waste disposing site where waste is sorted and then recycled. Ballaneven compost produces some great compost and they cannot sell enough of it. So there is local compost and it is sold island wide. But bedause they have to do all the work, turning etc, they are twice as expensive as just dumping it in the incinerator. It is more expensive, labour intensive etc. Cheap but mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyrotten Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I didn't think cost was the issue so much as saving the planet. Better to recycle green waste than burn it, etc. But if it CAN'T be recycled at the moment, for whatever reason, surely it's better to put it in the bin vans which are making the household collections anyway, and going to the tip anyway, than forcing thousands of householders to use hundreds of thousands of plastic bags and then make thousands of extra journeys every week and creating loads of totally unnecessary air pollution. An explanation of the logic involved would be most instructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 An explanation of the logic involved would be most instructive. My guess is the EFW plant is too big, so it needs to burn things you'd normally recycle to make it viable. Daft, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 An explanation of the logic involved would be most instructive. My guess is the EFW plant is too big, so it needs to burn things you'd normally recycle to make it viable. Daft, but there you go. As our chief minister likes to say "We are where we are." How we got here and who was in the driving seat is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 My guess is the EFW plant is too big, so it needs to burn things you'd normally recycle to make it viable. Why is it so big? Is it the minimum size possible? There's another one on the North Circular in London which seems just a little bit bigger, and that's burning waste from many London Boroughs, a catchment area of millions. Was there actually a study of waste amounts required/produced in advance of building our one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyrotten Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Size isn't the issue really. The issue is - if we are buning green waste instead of recyling it, why are we making everyone drive to the tip with their lawn cuttings instead of putting it straight in the bin? Doesn't really take a time and motion study to see we're creating more pollution not less. And I guess it doesn't take a genius to realise that there are too many people (espesh politicians) obsessed with appearing to be green, and not enough people applying simple logic to simple situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Keyboarder, fuck knows. It's clearly too fucking big. Given it's so big though, why not make use of it. Why not plant the uplands with fuckloads of pine or other biomass and burn it instead of fuelling it with silly stuff? Size isn't the issue really.The issue is - if we are buning green waste instead of recyling it, why are we making everyone drive to the tip with their lawn cuttings instead of putting it straight in the bin? Doesn't really take a time and motion study to see we're creating more pollution not less. Do the bins go straight to EFW? I'm not sure they do, as it's not all combustible. They have to take the green from the amenity because it's been separated. Best solution is to compost your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbashbosh Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 My guess is the EFW plant is too big, so it needs to burn things you'd normally recycle to make it viable. Daft, but there you go. Maybe, but at least the Government have planned ahead for population growth with a capital project.... FOR ONCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbashbosh Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Size isn't the issue really. The issue is - if we are buning green waste instead of recyling it, why are we making everyone drive to the tip with their lawn cuttings instead of putting it straight in the bin? Doesn't really take a time and motion study to see we're creating more pollution not less. And I guess it doesn't take a genius to realise that there are too many people (espesh politicians) obsessed with appearing to be green, and not enough people applying simple logic to simple situations. You can put your lawn cuttings in your bin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyrotten Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You can put your lawn cuttings in your bin? No. You can't. You have to put them in a plastic bag, drive to the tip, and empty the plastic bag so that THEY can take them to the incinerator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbashbosh Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You can put your lawn cuttings in your bin? No. You can't. You have to put them in a plastic bag, drive to the tip, and empty the plastic bag so that THEY can take them to the incinerator... Put mine in for years no bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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