gazza Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 but if your off sick dont you get paid anyways, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMC Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 but if your off sick dont you get paid anyways, This depends on your employment status! If employed, then subject to your employment contract terms, and if self employed, then only if you carry cover, and of course that this cover allows for the risk of motorsport. Over and above, it would also depend on what state benefits would become payable. As for the IOM and state benefits, then I’m not sure?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Manx Radio just spammed me this: Nick Crowe and Mark Cox Fundraiser This will be a great night out, not only for TT fans but for everyone and it's for a good cause. This Friday 26th June at Paramount City from 8pm. The best music from the 70s 80s & 90s with Chris Williams, Mike Reynolds & David Cretney. Plus an auction of some very special TT Memorabilia. Tickets at just £10 include a tasty Hot Pot supper and are available from Manx Radio Reception, The Sure Shop in Strand Street Douglas and the Sulby Glen Hotel. Hurry though because 'when they're gone....'etc etc. Come along, have a great night and support a very worthwhile cause. Entry is by ticket only. Does seem odd to be promoting fundraisers without giving details of what it's for. I wish the guys well, and hope they get better soon, and I'm sure everyones trying their best to help, but it might be more successful if we knew what we were being asked to raise funds for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Insurance may well be in place and may well cover the cost of specialist treatment and lost wages. There could be additional costs which insurance doesn't cover. For instance, treatment in UK medical facilities will make life difficult for close family to visit. The cost of travel, accommodation, time off work and even child care for these kind of visits will almost certainly not be covered by insurance. I have been involved in fund raising events for two separate families in this kind of position and the help was much appreciated. Both families had no idea that the fund raising was going on and for one family it was a total bolt from the blue when the cash turned up. My two instances were in the comparatively small Isle of Man rugby playing fraternity and neither event will have attracted muich publicity. The TT is a much bigger beast and the scale of the fundraising will undoubtedly be bigger, which is why you're all hearing about it. Given this bigger scale, perhaps the organisers could give a little more detail about what the money is to be used for. If it is family support for uninsured expenses then it may actually help generate more money. As ever with these things, if you don't like the idea, don't give, but for gawds sake don't put other donors off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Agreed 100% with what Slim said. Crap communications. Obviously no one in their right mind should expect the families to be wasting any time whatsoever on PR, however, someone not so occupied should be addressing at least the basics. Are there no formal support protocols? Enough money is (presumably) made from the TT, perhaps some resources should be formally diverted for cases like this including liason. Families will have enough on their plate. There must be a spare pencil pusher in an office who could be tasked with assisting as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Apart from the charitable fundraising that is going on, does anybody know what the government and organisers actually do or contribute to assist these casualties? After all, this is only remaining in the limelight because it involves high profile local people. Which is making it far more difficult as a problem to just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Why are you arguing about fundraising? The fundraising efforts will be supported by family, friends and people that care... people that don't require a receipt or to know where their money is going because they trust the people doing the fundraising and the reasons for doing it.... If you are not one of the above people its really not a problem, but why so negative. I guess in an attempt to reach family and friends that aren't close by, the internet forums etc have been used to spread the word... if you don't "buy" into it no worries... but again I'm amazed at some of the people that want to/are trying to rip it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Why are you arguing about fundraising?The fundraising efforts will be supported by family, friends and people that care... people that don't require a receipt or to know where their money is going because they trust the people doing the fundraising and the reasons for doing it.... If you are not one of the above people its really not a problem, but why so negative. I guess in an attempt to reach family and friends that aren't close by, the internet forums etc have been used to spread the word... if you don't "buy" into it no worries... but again I'm amazed at some of the people that want to/are trying to rip it apart. Floyd, I'm not ripping it apart, I'm just trying to understand. I got a note from Manx Radio about this, not the families or friends. I don't know why their raising funds, or what for. It's just got the name of the riders. The fundraising might be more effective if people knew what it was for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Floyd, I'm not ripping it apart, I'm just trying to understand. In all honesty slim.. I don't beleive you... you're a clever bloke, sensible and intelligent. I really don't think any of the events that have led to this thread are surpassed you and your mental capacity. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_scrote Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Why are you arguing about fundraising?The fundraising efforts will be supported by family, friends and people that care... people that don't require a receipt or to know where their money is going because they trust the people doing the fundraising and the reasons for doing it.... If you are not one of the above people its really not a problem, but why so negative. I guess in an attempt to reach family and friends that aren't close by, the internet forums etc have been used to spread the word... if you don't "buy" into it no worries... but again I'm amazed at some of the people that want to/are trying to rip it apart. From the way I read all the threads, people aren't arguing about the fundraising, but more the need to do it if there is insurance cover, or why would riders even consider riding/racing without cover in the first place...I would assume that the money from the fundraiser would go more toward the families direct costs of day to day living and travel to and from the UK, rather than the medical expenses ( may be wrong there), especially as there will be no breadwinner in the home until either lads arrive home, then they may not be fit enough to work for years...but whatever the outcome, I really wish these boys a quick and safe recovery, as I would with all the injured riders and other people involved.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 In all honesty slim.. I don't beleive you... you're a clever bloke, sensible and intelligent. I really don't think any of the events that have led to this thread are surpassed you and your mental capacity. I could be wrong though. But where have I ripped it apart? I'm just saying it's not very clear, and if why do I have to be clever and intelligent to work it out? Perhaps I'm missing something and I'm not as smart as you think I am! You're obviously close to this issue, and I think you might be over-reacting. Nobody's slagging it off, they're just asking questions. For the record, I'm supporting this event by the way, I'm not against the fundraising at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 To be honest from what i think slim is saying is that there is no detail into how much is needed and what it is to be used for. Most fundraising usually has a sum needed and what it will be used for. People like to know what they are buying into so to speak, no one is picking it to bits. I think we are all shocked that the government i.e DTL have not offered more assistance. Plus any time money is usually involved i think we all like to makes sure it isnt open to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bawden Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Floyd, I'm not ripping it apart, I'm just trying to understand. In all honesty slim.. I don't beleive you... you're a clever bloke, sensible and intelligent. I really don't think any of the events that have led to this thread are surpassed you and your mental capacity. I could be wrong though. You're having a laugh.....clever bloke, sensible and intelligent are not adjectives associated with slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Take Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Oh! The irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jampton Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Don't forget Gary Carswell, he is in hospital too and has a family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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