Declan Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 There'll be the biggest fight in the islands history if stopping the racing even comes onto the agenda IMO - as an attack on the MGP would certainly be seen as an imminent attack on the TT. I think many people will be surprised how much it would wake the island up, likely be seen as a major symbol of 'enough is enough' - and might even start something much bigger in terms of how islanders start to understand the impact of immigration on their culture. Many see the racing as a major element of our heritage and uniqueness - and an attack on it, would be seen as being just as outrageous as suggesting putting down all Manx cats. There'll be a lot of shouting from the pro-TT third of the population, and it'll probably be irrational bluster and counter-productive. There'll be a reasoned case put forward by anti-TT third that might win the day. Everyone else will be bored How the neutral third jump relies on how well the next few TT and MGP's are organised. If it is a broadly positive experience for non-bike fans (pleasant atmosphere, the odd interesting event, and inconvenience kept to a minimum) I doubt the issue will even get on the agenda but carry on as it has since the centenary debacle and patience will run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 There'll be the biggest fight in the islands history if stopping the racing even comes onto the agenda IMO Presumably a better result than Sky Hill would be desirable then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I prefer the MGP... love the smell of the older bikes I agree with Albert that if the MGP goes it is the thin end of the wedge to the TT going... arguably the thin end of the wedge was the loss of the world championships and we are currently bent over and taking the middle of said wedge However I can't see the population rising up to defend the MGP mainly because there are too many people who see it as an inconvenience to their lives Fixed to read However I can't see the population rising up to defend the MGP mainly because the majority see it as an inconvenience to their lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If a lowly marshall gets killed whilst performing his or her voluntary duties, does their family receive a compensation payout and if so how much? And what about for serious injuries? After all, it would be very irresponsible to volunteer if that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If a lowly marshall gets killed whilst performing his or her voluntary duties, does their family receive a compensation payout and if so how much? And what about for serious injuries? After all, it would be very irresponsible to volunteer if that wasn't the case. I think for last few years about 1 marshall is killed or seriously injured every other year on average - I'd also suggest that they double check their personal insurance policies as some exclude injuries etc whilst taking part in dangerous sports though I think there is group policy that covers the TT etc (but I have no details of the payouts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmannin Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 What utter shit Frances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpert Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Read 'last few years' as four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 What utter shit Frances. sorry but I know of at least one death + three serious injuries since about 2003 - are there statistics available as I was going from personal knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't get it. The very real risk of death or serious injury. No wages. The possibility of a lawsuit for making a mistake. Tinnitus. The stigma attached to the likes of me recognising your gullibility. Plus the possible post traumatic stress of witnessing a dying bike racer breathing his last minus a limb or two. All so some tightarses can milk a couple of quid out of some manky Homestay rooms or dodgy burgers. Other than non local volunteers getting a slight travel discount to come and get closer to their "heroes", is there actually a plus side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I prefer the MGP... love the smell of the older bikes I agree with Albert that if the MGP goes it is the thin end of the wedge to the TT going... arguably the thin end of the wedge was the loss of the world championships and we are currently bent over and taking the middle of said wedge However I can't see the population rising up to defend the MGP mainly because there are too many people who see it as an inconvenience to their lives Fixed to read However I can't see the population rising up to defend the MGP mainly because the majority see it as an inconvenience to their lives do it properly or don't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 What utter shit Frances. sorry but I know of at least one death + three serious injuries since about 2003 - are there statistics available as I was going from personal knowledge 2 accidents I assume - the Kirk Michael and 26th Milestone ones How about the previous 20 or so years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't get it. The very real risk of death or serious injury. No wages. The possibility of a lawsuit for making a mistake. Tinnitus. The stigma attached to the likes of me recognising your gullibility. Plus the possible post traumatic stress of witnessing a dying bike racer breathing his last minus a limb or two. All so some tightarses can milk a couple of quid out of some manky Homestay rooms or dodgy burgers. Other than non local volunteers getting a slight travel discount to come and get closer to their "heroes", is there actually a plus side? It gets them out of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 2 accidents I assume - the Kirk Michael and 26th Milestone onesHow about the previous 20 or so years? the 4th was this year - hower I have no knowledge of previous years which is why I was careful to say last few years as that was about as far back as I could remember though I think there may have been another marshal injured in addition to those within that timeframe (+ one I think died of a heart attack at scene of a crash but can't recall when) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee54 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 2 accidents I assume - the Kirk Michael and 26th Milestone onesHow about the previous 20 or so years? the 4th was this year - hower I have no knowledge of previous years which is why I was careful to say last few years as that was about as far back as I could remember though I think there may have been another marshal injured in addition to those within that timeframe (+ one I think died of a heart attack at scene of a crash but can't recall when) Sorry to spoil your little story but only two officials have ever been killed at the races on the IOM Facts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Snaef...fatal_accidents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 thankyou but I also stated killed or seriously injured - the latter category I suspect are not easy to find (again assuming there are any - please tell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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