John Wright Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Assess the various manifesto's and write and ask 'why not' for starters. You know things aren't going to change unless people get off their arse, get organised and start a proper political party. Things have gone so awry, and are likely to continue in that direction until the next election, that never has there been a more important time to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I've raised this before on here. There's enough talent and enough ability on here. The main problem being the strength of the established order and the general apathy towards radical change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Show the world and of course in particular Westminster, that the Isle of Man is capable of running its own affairs. With a legal system that is not without a certain degree of duplicity, that is going to be very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Show the world and of course in particular Westminster, that the Isle of Man is capable of running its own affairs. With a legal system that is not without a certain degree of duplicity, that is going to be very difficult. I agree, the same old same old, will more than likley get back in. TB in Castletown, AB in Ramsey, PK in Onchan... there will be maybe 4 or 5 seats with new faces. The biggest problem IMO is when they become elected (apart from a couple of them) they do forget that they are just normal people as well (please correct me if you feel there is a member of the HK or LegCo that is a normal person after election) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The biggest problem IMO is when they become elected (apart from a couple of them) they do forget that they are just normal people as well (please correct me if you feel there is a member of the HK or LegCo that is a normal person after election) Unfortunately, it was ever thus. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Anyway, you can't just create a political party out of thin air! The political groups previously created haven't set the word on fire, have they? All you may end up with is a divided house and folk arguing a point for no other reason that to be contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The biggest problem IMO is when they become elected (apart from a couple of them) they do forget that they are just normal people as well (please correct me if you feel there is a member of the HK or LegCo that is a normal person after election) Unfortunately, it was ever thus. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Anyway, you can't just create a political party out of thin air! The political groups previously created haven't set the word on fire, have they? All you may end up with is a divided house and folk arguing a point for no other reason that to be contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cat Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cat Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Have a few good men stand who are not afraid to speak thier minds and who are not there because they want to be "in society" and COMIN. the cat - well I am still a civil servant till I retire next year then I will lift the vaile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cat Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Have a few good men stand who are not afraid to speak thier minds and who are not there because they want to be "in society" and COMIN. the cat - well I am still a civil servant till I retire next year then I will lift the vaile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I've raised this before on here. There's enough talent and enough ability on here. The main problem being the strength of the established order and the general apathy towards radical change. The strength of the establish order is the general apathy. Don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cat Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Have a few good men stand who are not afraid to speak thier minds and who are not there because they want to be "in society" and COMIN. the cat - well I am still a civil servant till I retire next year then I will lift the vaile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cat Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well the life of this House of Keys is well past the half way stage. After 50 years of November elections we move to September next time. Yes, its two yers away only What haven't we done. Well no one has started a real political party and the Lib Vans have lost their members Peter apart we are running out of time What haven't they done electoral boundaries, thwey quiwetly buried the interim report and sacked the committee elections to Legco the report on Government Structure, ignored sorted out a DCS fit for purpose and the future expressed any real views on a future not tied to the Apron Strings of Westminster What shoud we do to try and stop the rot. Have a few good men stand who are not afraid to speak thier minds and who are not there because they want to be "in society" and COMIN. the cat - well I am still a civil servant till I retire next year then I will lift the vaile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Assess the various manifesto's and write and ask 'why not' for starters. You know things aren't going to change unless people get off their arse, get organised and start a proper political party. Things have gone so awry, and are likely to continue in that direction until the next election, that never has there been a more important time to do so. Why do you think people haven't got off their arse yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 the cat may have nine lives, but that doesn't warrant three identical posts, unless it's to correct the spelling or grammatical mistakes. Can't wait to see your vaile lifted though...I'm sure you're JUST what we need in Keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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