macmannin Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Ah,so your now going from the 1950's,make your mind up.And theres me thinking you only post useless bollocks about CHINA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Do you know how long a decade is macmannin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 37 inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bawden Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Why oh why do people keep going on about this? If you don't like the races, or wish to be potentially injured/deceased then stay the feck away, if you do like the races and have no problem being potentially injured/deceased then watch and support them.....those involved in or spectating or marshalling the races SHOULD or DO know the risks so leave them be, and if they get injured or killed then that's the law of the jungle, a bit like brain damage from boxing, don't want brain damage, then don't box....simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 ....if they get injured or killed then that's the law of the jungle, a bit like brain damage from boxing, don't want brain damage, then don't box....simples Really? The law of the jungle? I thought it was a Government backed sporting event? So in retrospect your post is a little mindless..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Boxing is a regulated sport - gloves, no below the belt etc. Literally millions of people compete using these regulations. Some people die as a result, some get injured. Rugby is the same etc. The question is whether the death toll as a result of these regulations is such that the regulations need to be changed. IE is the situation with the TT/MGP similar to the way boxing was before the Marquis of Queensbury turned up with his rules. Millions box, or play rugby or ski or whatever. Only hundreds ride in the TT or MGP - that puts the accident rate for the TT multiple thousands of times higher than for these sports. This has been explained multiple times. I suppose this is the point - I think it is unacceptable that it is basically guaranteed that two or so people will die every year out of the couple of hundred competitors that come to this Isle. The road racing fraternity seem to think it's fine. No changes are needed, just keep racing (or so this poll seems to show). I really doubt that the authorities can allow that. I'm sure there were lots of bare nuckle fighters who wanted the Marquis of Queensbury to leave their sport alone - we love what we are doing, let us carry on as we want to do. But today's road racers not only want to do what they want to do, they want the state to sponsor the racing, hand over the roads for them to use, pay for the hospital care, and provide the occupational and social support to those mangled when it goes wrong. The rights to health and social security and the responsibilities to use grants of money and roads to the road racing community come back with responsibilities from the riders and most especially the race organizers. The insurance levels required to race are ridiculously low etc etc. Maybe I should start another poll - do you think the accident toll is acceptable and ask people to give suggestions as to what can be done to reduce them. I just see time and time again people shrugging their shoulders and saying everything is fine with road racing on the IOM things don't need to change. I believe that attitude will end the sport - and I do think that is a shame. The TT is a special part of the Island's culture - long may it continue - but that most definitely cannot mean killing two or more competitors a year. Bare knuckle boxing had a risk rate that was socially unacceptable. Road racing on the Island kills riders at a rate thousands of times higher than boxing under the Queensbury rules. Reforms are needed, to deny that is to be a frog in a boiling pan. Croak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Boxing is a regulated sport - gloves, no below the belt etc. Literally millions of people compete using these regulations. Some people die as a result, some get injured. I have to admit I have my doubts about boxing, not so much amateur boxing with the head guards etc and which is scored I think in a different way but professional boxing as I struggle to accept that any activity should be described as a sport where the intention is to go out to injure/hurt and knock out your opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Why oh why do people keep going on about this? Because people keep replying with their opinions. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBloodyNine Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Bare knuckle boxing had a risk rate that was socially unacceptable. Road racing on the Island kills riders at a rate thousands of times higher than boxing under the Queensbury rules. Although bare knuckle boxing has a much lower fatality rate and chance of brain damage even though in the olden days bouts could last 20-30 rounds as the majority of blows fall to the body. The regulation and safety improvements brought in to boxing have in effect made it much more lethal. So really we dont want the TT to follow boxings example otherwise we will be seeing more deaths in the future do to "improvements" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The rules are already stringent: 1. They must have a motorbike. 2. They must be prepared to pay an enormous amount of money to get it here. 3. They must be prepared to sleep in a swamp. 4. They must not complain after they've been killed. 5. There are no other rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bawden Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 ....if they get injured or killed then that's the law of the jungle, a bit like brain damage from boxing, don't want brain damage, then don't box....simples Really? The law of the jungle? I thought it was a Government backed sporting event? So in retrospect your post is a little mindless..... What the hell has that got to do with it, you're an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 ....if they get injured or killed then that's the law of the jungle, a bit like brain damage from boxing, don't want brain damage, then don't box....simples Really? The law of the jungle? I thought it was a Government backed sporting event? So in retrospect your post is a little mindless..... What the hell has that got to do with it, you're an idiot QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Ah,so You should seek not to know the answers, but to understand the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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