gazza Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 "u should be paying double for it. you all want it for northing " Are you bleeding dense or just pretending? Pay double for something that is already over priced? I don't "want it all for nothing" I want it at a sensible price. and ppl want to be paid a sensible price to produce it for you. so its under priced to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 someone was saying ... it also costs dairy farmers something like 27p a litre to produce and they get paid 24p So what is the incentive to produce it ? There has to be some missing number in this equation. It cannot surely be a straight loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 someone was saying ... it also costs dairy farmers something like 27p a litre to produce and they get paid 24p So what is the incentive to produce it ? There has to be some missing number in this equation. It cannot surely be a straight loss. thair aint one, thats why so many have left the milk, the ones that are still holding in cant just stop producing just with a click of a finger, u have to downsize bit by bit. in 5 years time u see the number drop to about 20-30 famers in milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmannin Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 This was alaways going to happen after the introduction of the single farm payment.In a few more years there will be just a few farms with very big herds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Are you bleeding dense or just pretending? Pay double for something that is already over priced? I don't "want it all for nothing" I want it at a sensible price. How is it over priced? The price distribution (supermarket/producer) is something most people would argue with, but the end price is hardly dear. If it's so over-priced why is the dairy industry in crisis? A pint of milk used to cost roughly the same as a pint of beer, and there's been no massive breakthrough in production techniques of either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 This was alaways going to happen after the introduction of the single farm payment.In a few more years there will be just a few farms with very big herds. yes on the first point, and no on the second point. im not sure what u would call a big herd in your head. on the island a big heard is maybe 150 cows, of the top of me head i think there is only 2 farms with that many or more cows. and one of them is thinking of packing it in the next few years. the rest of the farms could not get any bigger herds as it would cost prob from about half a million or more to take the numbers up to over 150. and thats with out buying any more land or the stock. thats just the the set up needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jampton Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I get a pint of milk delivered to my doorstep before I get up in the morning for 57p. Good value, I think Grimsdale dairy of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 "Milk is a staple, we have/had legislation about bread here...so why not milk?" Maybe because it is not a staple. It doesn't form the basis of a necessary diet. People just drink a lot of it: put it on their cereal, in their tea, and cook with it. It is just popularly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 "Milk is a staple, we have/had legislation about bread here...so why not milk?" Maybe because it is not a staple. It doesn't form the basis of a necessary diet. People just drink a lot of it: put it on their cereal, in their tea, and cook with it. It is just popularly used. As much as bread is used you mean? Maybe a bit like a staple (n) 1. A principal raw material or commodity grown or produced in a region. 2. A major item of trade in steady demand. 3. A basic dietary item, such as flour, rice, or corn. ...possibly? If I was a dairy farmer - I'd happily give you two acres anytime. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 It's like basic foodstuffs that people's diets are based around to gain vital nutrients. It is just a popular addition. That is all I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 It's like basic foodstuffs that people's diets are based around to gain vital nutrients. It is just a popular addition. That is all I mean I'd advise you to put fish on your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 But there isn't a middleman in the Island's case - the Creameries is a co-operative owned by the Island's diary farmers. I don't understand how they aren't paying themselves enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 But there isn't a middleman in the Island's case - the Creameries is a co-operative owned by the Island's diary farmers. I don't understand how they aren't paying themselves enough. Hmmm...how do the finances/payback all work then? Worth knowing, especially if we are all potentially going to be bullshitted over a price rise here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 The production is being creamed so someone's skimming it off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Probably why they're cheesed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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