Tv Licence

[Mutley]

Are you also trying to say that if the public pay for something it has some value? Or that simply because some people use a public good it has value? And we are talking about television and radio, not essentials.

 

I thought I was quite clear in what I said.

[La_Dolce_Vita]

Not really. The BBC and the payment of public services (such as water supply and cleaning) are not really good comparisons. The BBC is not a necessity, simply public funded entertainment provider and to a small extent an educational or informational broadcaster.

[Mutley]

Not really. The BBC and the payment of public services (such as water supply and cleaning) are not really good comparisons. The BBC is not a necessity, simply public funded entertainment provider and to a small extent an educational or informational broadcaster.

 

Can I just stop you there.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

[Slim]

Though I would be interested to know why you think it is, such as whether it is for the programmes you watch or listen to, but the problem is that many, many people do not agree. If they don't watch or listen to it, why should they finance it?

 

I finance a lot of things I don't use, that's all part of being in a society and not being a naive idealist.

[Mr. Sausages]

Not really. The BBC and the payment of public services (such as water supply and cleaning) are not really good comparisons.

 

Erm... he didn't compare it to water and cleaning, he compared it to public services he doesn't use. E.g., I don't use the horse trams, Douglas golf course or the NSC.

[Mutley]

Not really. The BBC and the payment of public services (such as water supply and cleaning) are not really good comparisons.

 

Erm... he didn't compare it to water and cleaning, he compared it to public services he doesn't use. E.g., I don't use the horse trams, Douglas golf course or the NSC.

 

Don't spoon feed the troll.

[La_Dolce_Vita]

I am not trolling. I will be honest and say that I don't think the quality of what is provided by the BBC is all that bad and there is a lot to be said about the benefits of an reasonably independepent media, as opposed to what the Americans have in regard to news.

 

However, I really can understand the perspective where people ask why they HAVE to pay for things they never use and do not want to use.

 

I suppose it would help to know why you would want to pay for such things you do not use (that are not essentials or significantly improve the society we live in)?

 

I finance a lot of things I don't use, that's all part of being in a society and not being a naive idealist.

No it isn't you infuriating dope. It is a product of idealism. If it wasn't for socialist ideas which were considered idealistic in the nineteenth century you wouldn't be in the position of paying for these things, i.e. there wouldn't be a BBC. I do wonder how a seemingly intelligent person as yourself is stuck in this political bubble of thinking the ways things are now is the only possible way that society can exist and function.

[Slim]

No it isn't you infuriating dope. It is a product of idealism. If it wasn't for socialist ideas which were considered idealistic in the nineteenth century you wouldn't be in the position of paying for these things, i.e. there wouldn't be a BBC. I do wonder how a seemingly intelligent person as yourself is stuck in this political bubble of thinking the ways things are now is the only possible way that society can exist and function.

 

The beeb was first chartered in the 20th century, Wolfie. You're the one in the bubble, polluting every thread with your political fantasies.

[La_Dolce_Vita]

Political fantasies? And what about this thread has been polluted by fantasy?

 

And yes, the Beed was chartered in the 20th century, an achievement for socialism, which I explained was idealistic in the 19th century, and to add was certainly seen as being so in respect of lots of other public services and companies that sprang up in the mid-twentieth century. Government spending as it is today even would not have been possible without the idealism of socialist theory and the ideas of the Liberal Party a century ago.

 

If people were not idealistic, they would be like you, stuck in this mindset where the way in which society is constructed today is the only way society can be. Anything else can't be possible or even worth considering because it doesn't happen now. I am not in the bubble, I have a good grasp of other political concepts, even your utterly conventional liberal one.

[Declan]

I do hope the beeb didn't spend too much on that BBC3 programme that seems to consist of the that sarky bloke off screenwipe sitting on a couch playing computer games.

[Amadeus]

I do hope the beeb didn't spend too much on that BBC3 programme that seems to consist of the that sarky bloke off screenwipe sitting on a couch playing computer games.

What????????

 

Charlie Brooker is one of the rare glimpses of hope in the barren landscape of shit television. He's ace, ace, double ace!

[MilitantDogOwner]

To be honest I don't watch alot of BBC programs (well usually stuff on Dave but thats about it).

 

What makes me laugh is the wallys who pay £700 a year for Sky yet do nothing but moan about it. Here's a hint if you don't like it don't pay for it.

 

I do think however if the TV Tax was scrapped you would really see just how many pro/anti BBC viewers there are out there.

[Slim]

If people were not idealistic, they would be like you, stuck in this mindset where the way in which society is constructed today is the only way society can be. Anything else can't be possible or even worth considering because it doesn't happen now. I am not in the bubble, I have a good grasp of other political concepts, even your utterly conventional liberal one.

 

I'm not stuck in any mindset, I just don't want to pollute every thread with political naivety, its boring and largely irrelevant.

 

Declan, Gameswipe ruled. It was a mature and sensible adult programme on games featuring actual games footage, and gamers discussing the subject intelligently, rather than watching cgi fmv or gladiatorial competitions and other gimmicks. It'd be fab to have an ongoing series in that format, that wouldn't need to be a retrospective. A good example to justify the Beeb, something that's culturally valuable but probably wouldn't be commercially successful.

[Declan]

Charlie Brooker is one of the rare glimpses of hope in the barren landscape of shit television. He's ace, ace, double ace!

 

Screenwipe was ok in a sarcastic 90's ironic TV deconstructs itself old fashioned way. Mark Thomas meets Harry Hill. I find the presenter unengaging, but not too bad when discussing subjects like the coverage of the G20 protests, but sat on a sofa playing Castle Wolfenstein and going "uh Nazi's what that all about" in a sarky tone of voice?

[jimbms]

Why are we paying £142.50 a year to the BBC for a tv licence on the island, What do we get for it, Why are we FORCED to purchase it and why does our Manx government allow the BBC to come over and prosecute Island folk. Yes it really annoys me, just thought i'd throw this one out for comments.

 

I personally think its worth it, the bbc is superb.

Though I would be interested to know why you think it is, such as whether it is for the programmes you watch or listen to, but the problem is that many, many people do not agree. If they don't watch or listen to it, why should they finance it?

I fully agree If you do not use it or need it in your life then you shouldn't pay for it, Therefore LDV could you please send me a cheque in proportion the the percentage of tax I have payed for your uni fees and any other benifits you may have had.