thebees Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 BBC story I so love it when someone really clever has similar opinions to me. He was providing his expert opinion for free and the UK government (full of really intelligent people...) sacked him for doing his job, did they want him to lie? Ha, he'll be the next one, look at what happened to the weapons inspector chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 "Professor Or Politicians?, Who's advice would you trust?" In my years of experience of politics, academia and R&D, both tend to peddle a completely unrealistic view of the world. I suspect the truth of this matter, as usual, lays somewhere in-between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 in a straight choice between one or the other i would be much more probable to factor in a professor's opinion than a politians opinion when making up my mind on a subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 politicians are just itinerant blaggers who profess they know what they are talking about, professors generally know what they are talking about no contest ! " You can convince some the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot convince all of the people all of the time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 /fingers in ears "la la la la la la la la la la" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 This is the tip of an iceberg. New Labour, in particular the dreadful Blair, rejected the advice given by the permanent secretaries in the Civil Service and set about culling those who didn’t gleefully do his bidding. Brown likewise rejected advice from the Treasury Mandarins and went on his disastrous fiscal experiment, and the failure is hitting us all now Likewise the decision driven by John (call me Jack) Straw in collusion with Blair to open the doors to Immigration along with the utterly stupid multicultural experiment, which has also failed disastrously, is yet another example of these fools ignoring advice from people who know. To now see the decision to politicise the classification of ‘illegal substances’ on the basis of trying to buy popularity with a certain sector of the electorate rather than provide an indication of the potential to cause harm is quite simply wrong. I do wonder to what extent lobbying by the providers of ‘legal’ substances has influenced this decision in the same way that it was lobbying by interested parties with vested interests that was responsible more than anything else for the making of Cannabis illegal in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 He has factored only the scientific evidence about medical harm - he has ignored the social and societal harm resulting from drugs culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Which has been nurtured by ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 make all these drugs legal and it cuts down on the future pension liability ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 He has factored only the scientific evidence about medical harm - he has ignored the social and societal harm resulting from drugs culture. That's all he was asked to look at. Classification is (supposed to be) based on the physical harm a drug can have on the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Professor Or Politicians?, Who's advice would you trust? Neither I've seen enough people first hand to make up my own mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Pot heads and ravers blue? or do you mean proper junkies with the whole 'car crash life' deal going on? Oh yes, I heard this morning that his colleagues are about to 'walk' in support. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 READ & CONSIDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Why would you trust a politician in the first place? But if you are talking about someone's expertise on the effects of drugs on people's bodies and their effects on society, I would of course say the Professor's comments are to be trusted more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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