Chinahand Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 Remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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doc.fixit Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Remember. I'm just about half way through, 'Every Breath You Take,(China's new tyranny)', by Ian Williams. If accurate then China at the moment is a very, very scary place both for it's citizens and for the world. I will need to read it a few times and I think I still won't understand the reason's behind the thoughts of Xi Jinping and his reasons for creating the yoke he has tied round the necks of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Chinahand said: Remember. Microsoft doesn't: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/04/microsoft-bing-tiananmen-tank-man-results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 hours ago, doc.fixit said: I'm just about half way through, 'Every Breath You Take,(China's new tyranny)', by Ian Williams. If accurate then China at the moment is a very, very scary place both for it's citizens and for the world. Certainly not a place I'll ever be visiting. They're flooded the world (almost plague like) with cheap low quality shite. And when a stance was finally taken, with tariffs, we coincidentally end up with a global pandemic emanating out of China. Which of course didn't affect them too badly That's before you get to their human rights issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Fascinating long-read on the ancient Chinese text the Zuo Zhuan 左传 and how it is a more useful guide to the Chinese-US rivalry than Thucydides. https://warontherocks.com/2020/12/trapped-by-thucydides-updating-the-strategic-canon-for-a-sinocentric-era/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 China's political slogans (提法 ti2fa3) are quite fascinating things. Sometimes understandable, sometime not. The BBC has recently had a go looking at some of them: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09pnqtq 1. 只有社会主义才能救中国 Zhi1you3 she4hui4zhu3yi1 cai2 neng2j iu4 zhong1guo2 Only Socialism can save China. 2. 从群众中来,到群众中去 Cong2 qun2zhong4 zhong1 lai2, dao4 qun2zhong4 zhong1 qu4 From the masses to the masses 3. 百花齊放，百家爭鳴 Bai3hua1 qi2fang4, bai3jia1 zheng1ming2 Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend. 4. 两条腿走路 Liang3 tiao2 tui3 zhou3 lu4 Walking on two legs 5. 造反有理; Zao4fan4 you3 li3 To rebel is justified 6. 让一部分人先富起来 Rang4 yi1bu4fen4 ren2 xian1 fu4 qi3lai2 Let some people get rich first 7. 民主万岁 Min2zhu3 wan4 sui4 Long live democracy 8. 中国梦 Zhong1guo2 meng4 The China Dream They also had a go back in 2013 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24923993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 An explanation of the song I've just posted in the Go on then, what are you kistening too thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 The widening crack down in China is now declaring capital the enemy. An official has been purged for "colluding with capital and backing disorderly expansion of capital”. Xi Jinping is using Maoist phraseology to enforce his Party First agenda. Finding a common language when faced with such rhetoric is challenging and it will only get worse with time. And there are very clear parallels between Putin's sabre rattling over Ukraine and Xi's ambition to swallow Taiwan. The CPC has a strong interest in the success of Putin's use of force against a democratic championing West. Sad times if you support democracy and individual rights. https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3165084/capital-evil-chinas-widening-crackdown-has-ring-bygone-era?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=share_widget&utm_campaign=3165084 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 7/19/2021 at 11:10 PM, Chinahand said: 5. 造反有理; Zao4fan4 you3 li3 To rebel is justified 6. 让一部分人先富起来 Rang4 yi1bu4fen4 ren2 xian1 fu4 qi3lai2 Let some people get rich first 7. 民主万岁 Min2zhu3 wan4 sui4 Long live democracy Just seen your post. These slogans are fascinating and don't really seem to fit with how the west views China and their communist approach. Are you able to provide any context for these slogans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 Mm1980 the best advice I can give is to listen to the BBC world service program which explains the slogans linked in the original post. The long live democracy one isn't a CPC slogan (though it does have some with a Maoist idea of Big Democracy https://www.jstor.org/stable/26588743) it's from the Tiananmen students. The let some get rich first is from Deng Xiaoping as he brought central planning to an end allowing entrepreneurs to grow out of the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 3:14 PM, Chinahand said: And there are very clear parallels between Putin's sabre rattling over Ukraine and Xi's ambition to swallow Taiwan. The CPC has a strong interest in the success of Putin's use of force against a democratic championing West. Apart from China apparently asking Russia to hold off invading Ukraine until after the winter Olympics, if Russia do the deed, it wouldn't suprise me at all if China then went for Taiwan either at the same time or very shortly after. Gauging the world response and take advantage of the distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 What is happening in Xinjiang is a massive tragedy and academic sober researchers are risking Godwin'ing themselves by raising the parallels with 1930s Germany. One professor of Chinese law who I follow on Twitter recently posted that the situation is considerably worse than the situation in the early 1930s in the extent of mass imprisonment and the Xin Jiang gulag. This is a very dry and quite theoretical lecture on Xin Jiang: The framing of the lecture isn't a framing I'd use, but it is well thought out, and the explanation of how the Chinese Communist Party has criminalised Uyghur society and coerced its youth into a factory labour system is very powerful. I highly recommend listening to it as an example of how people disappear into a totalitarian black hole. The individual is entirely subsumed, declared a terrorist enemy of the party for behaving in ways we wouldn't in any way consider unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 You know that old 'picture says a thousand words' thing? This is one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, manxfisherman said: You know that old 'picture says a thousand words' thing? This is one of those. What's the backstory on this? It seems the old guy is being turfed out by the bouncers, but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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