Craine Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Hotel.im is for sale by auction. Visit http://hotel.im for more information. Auction ends Saturday January 16th 2010 at 2:17 PM GMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craine Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 Now accepting bids over £940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craine Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 Now accepting bids over £990 edit: now accepting bids over £2,050 edit: now accepting bids over £2,200 edit: domain sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurricanII Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Purely because cyber squatting is scummy in my opinion, I would point out that section 3 of https://www.nic.im/pdfs/disputeresolution.pdf states that registering a domain name for the purposes of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the Domain Name... ...for valuable consideration in excess of... ...costs directly associated with acquiring or using the Domain Name leaves you open to a dispute claim via www.nic.im from a potential legitimate user of the domain. In fact I would encourage legitimate local companies to file disputes for this and the other domains listed for sale on hotel.im, (as well as filing disputes for any other im domains registered purely for reselling): info.im car.im motors.im job.im maps.im art.im antiques.im Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Purely because cyber squatting is scummy in my opinion, I would point out that section 3 of https://www.nic.im/pdfs/disputeresolution.pdf states that registering a domain name for the purposes of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the Domain Name... ...for valuable consideration in excess of... ...costs directly associated with acquiring or using the Domain Name leaves you open to a dispute claim via www.nic.im from a potential legitimate user of the domain. In fact I would encourage legitimate local companies to file disputes for this and the other domains listed for sale on hotel.im, (as well as filing disputes for any other im domains registered purely for reselling) A very sensible post Turrican. What safeguard is there against the owner bidding to create the impression of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurricanII Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 What safeguard is there against the owner bidding to create the impression of interest? I am not sure what you mean.. I assume Craine would not raise a dispute against himself and want to pay a second lot of registration charges if he is successful, only to leave a 'For sale' holding page on it again and still run the risk of a dispute from a company wanting to use the domain for their company. To resolve the dispute the interested parties may be asked to demonstrate their appropriate use of the domain.. The answer is probably in the PDF link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 pm sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I think if he had registered "seftonhotel.im" instead of "hotel.im" then there would be a cybersquatting case. Would the owner of a local hotel be classed as a "potential legitimate user of the domain". If it were the prior domain name then the local Sefton Hotel would be, but I wouldn't say there were a "potential legitimate user" of "hotel.im". Equally the other domains are similar including places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.I.N.G. Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Do you mean like this one? http://81taxi.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craine Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Purely because cyber squatting is scummy in my opinion, I would point out that section 3 of https://www.nic.im/pdfs/disputeresolution.pdf states that registering a domain name for the purposes of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the Domain Name... ...for valuable consideration in excess of... ...costs directly associated with acquiring or using the Domain Name leaves you open to a dispute claim via www.nic.im from a potential legitimate user of the domain. You missed out the word "complainant" in the above... I am a legitimate registrant and as a local resident have a genuine interest in all of these domains, unlike the majority of the .im domains that have been registered. All I have are generic terms, not company names. In response:- -Surely people who register domains such as "http://manxforum.com/" (without the 's') are in the wrong, preying on established websites, not people who register domains like "forum.com"? -I own photos.im amongst a few other personal sites which I've developed as I have an interest in photography. Maybe I should be given a UDRP by Keigs...? "scummy"? Well you're entitled to your opinion I suppose. I also kill kittens in my spare time. What safeguard is there against the owner bidding to create the impression of interest? Sedo.com is an independent company - I cannot generate false impressions or bids on the site without violating terms and agreements. I'm sure all i.p. addresses are logged and as the two current bidders are in Germany I'm sure it would look a little suspicious if I jumped in... with the same i.p. I use to check the site... look at this thread if you have a genuine interest in the legalities of domain ownership - espcially .im domains http://www.dnforum.com/f26/im-decision-rev...ead-177033.html A local legal firm on the island won dispute against "lawyers.im", however the decision was reversed. A generic term cannot simply be the right of a company unless it is a registered mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Do you mean like this one? http://81taxi.com/ Thank you for the free publicity! If 81taxi would like the domain transferred to their name they only have to ask nicely, along with a full apology for previous criminal acts carried out against myself and my company. Regards, Sidney/North East Cabs Also, are you one of their drivers T.I.N.G.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurricanII Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I think if he had registered "seftonhotel.im" instead of "hotel.im" then there would be a cybersquatting case. Would the owner of a local hotel be classed as a "potential legitimate user of the domain". Cybersquatting was the wrong term for me to use for that reason! Yes the owner of any on island hotel who wants to register hotel.im for use to promote their IoM hotel would be a 'legit user' in my opinion, not sure if the same opinion would be held at nic.im. I would say that someone who operated or was planning to create a Hotel booking portal for local hotels would be another legit user. Clearly registering hotel.im (and the other unrelated domains listed above) purely to flog it on at nearly 40 times the registration cost is speculating and classed as an Abusive Registration according to the definition in the nic.im Disputes PDF. The point is, if you run a local hotel and consider that this domain would help your hotel, stick a dispute claim in and don't pay over the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digga Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Do you mean like this one? http://81taxi.com/ thats why it dont work when i ring him for a cab then as his number is not 818294 thought that was the whole idea of 81 T8 A2 X9 I4 he should really have on his sign 81TATA for it to really work......Biff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craine Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Well despite any moral objections you might have the auction closes in two hours - this is your last chance. I'll just remind everyone reading this thread, these are generic domains, no one person or company has an implicit right to them unless their trademark represents exactly the term. No terms or conditions at the registry have been broken and no intellectual property laws have been violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Do you mean like this one? http://81taxi.com/ thats why it dont work when i ring him for a cab then as his number is not 818294 thought that was the whole idea of 81 T8 A2 X9 I4 he should really have on his sign 81TATA for it to really work......Biff The number is actually 817272. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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