Amadeus Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 France to deny citizenship to man who requires wife to wear burqa In an ongoing debate, the French government has struck another blow against the burqa with the prime minister set to sign a decree denying citizenship to a man for forcing his wife to wear the full Islamic veil. France's Prime Minister Francois Fillon said Wednesday on Europe 1 radio he would sign a decree sent to him by Immigration Minister Eric Besson refusing citizenship to a Moroccan man. The reason, he said, was that the man stated in his application he would never allow his wife to leave the home without a full veil and that a woman "is an inferior being." Shocking - there are people who want to be French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Shocking - there are people who want to be French? ha ha vary good. but least they have stopped him, which from the frence is quite not like them to stand up to something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbms Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Well done the French for showing this moron that he can't go around treating people as his property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimeejulia Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 this is a form of domestic abuse a husband has no right to tell a wife how she should or shouldn't dress, I hope this man sees that his wife for what she really is and starts treating his wife as an equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 If the system requires that such an obvious case (calling a woman an "inferior being" in an application form) still needs a presidential decree, it's hardly perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I have to say I find it a bit disturbing. Its like when the Americans go on about Anti-American activities - are the French claiming those attitudes don't exist in France, or only exist in Islamic families - yeah right - the Austrian cellar incest-ist Joeseph Fritzl was a high catholic who had very strong opinions about the place of women in society. Lets not pretend that such people don't exist in France and aren't accepted as being as French as cheese. Certainly such attitudes are repellent, but civil society should have internal mechanisms for dealing with them - it is imperitive it does due to the sad fact such attitudes are too prevelent and so women need to escape them. I would want to have civil society strong enough to defeat such attitudes - strong, integrated secular schools, clear values of equality and self determination - than allow them the moral victory that they have been banned or censored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 It's part of a larger movement in France. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 yeah right - the Austrian cellar incest-ist Joeseph Fritzl was a high catholic who had very strong opinions about the place of women in society. Lets not pretend that such people don't exist in France and aren't accepted as being as French as cheese. Cheese first came from the middle east too didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulgarian Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Appalling attitude toward women displayed by the Moroccan man. However, in similar vein, the French ban on wearing a full-face veil is not any kind of victory except for bigotry and repression. It has nothing to do with religion, you say? Muhammad's sweaty ass crack it hasn't. As much as the imposition on women to wear a veil is rooted in misogynistic cultural-religious attitudes, the ban on wearing it is rooted in Western Islamophobia, xenophobia, racism, and intolerance. You want to tackle radical Islam... by suppressing their religious practices? Good thinking, Sarkozy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Go on the Vulgar. What's your plan for tackling radical Islam or any other increasingly powerful religious nutters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 As this is a Human Rights judgment it means a ban on the full face veil could be applied in Britain too. I certainly agree that 'showing your face' is part of western, and British culture. As such, I frankly don't like the culture of the veil. However, I am probably slightly more uncomfortable with banning such things. I would prefer that attitudes amongst British Muslims become more relaxed and that they become more comfortable in showing their faces when out and about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I often think it would be quite nice to wear a veil, people judge though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jampton Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think that wearing black robes and a veil draws attention to the woman in the UK and especially in the IOM. This must go somewhere to defeat its object. Reminds me of Batman wanting a corner table in a restaurant because he did not what to be conspicuous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I often think it would be quite nice to wear a veil, people judge though.... Some women in the west wear a veil of make-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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