gazza Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head There's quite a lot of evidence that shows working less hours, in many jobs, will increase productivity. If you have increased productivity, and more free time then there's a good chance the economy will improve, and quality of life certainly will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to the Future Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head There's quite a lot of evidence that shows working less hours, in many jobs, will increase productivity. If you have increased productivity, and more free time then there's a good chance the economy will improve, and quality of life certainly will. Tell these guys... http://www.manxforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to the Future Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head There's quite a lot of evidence that shows working less hours, in many jobs, will increase productivity. If you have increased productivity, and more free time then there's a good chance the economy will improve, and quality of life certainly will. Tell these guys... http://www.manxforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38110 eta - oooops - sorry, Didn't mean to repeat myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-Drift.com Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head There's quite a lot of evidence that shows working less hours, in many jobs, will increase productivity. If you have increased productivity, and more free time then there's a good chance the economy will improve, and quality of life certainly will. All well and good if you're salaried, crap deal if you're hourly paid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jampton Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 In the 70's I remember that being said about the benefits of the introduction of computers to our work place. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 In the 70's I remember that being said about the benefits of the introduction of computers to our work place. Ha! that would be a computer salesman, like those that predicted the millennium bug (which computers caused in the first place ! - when's the next time bomb ? 2036 ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Cut working week to 21 hours, urges think tank Of course, for many senior Civil Servants this is actually an increase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 This is a deliberately contentious made-up report crafted to instigate debate and raise the profile of the otherwise pointless NEF and their latest findings. If it was a more congested week in terms of reporting they would probably have said 15 hours and got even more / less attention. Pre 1997 soft left think tanks were on the rise. These days it's the soft right think tanks which are doing well. It's a business. What they say is the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 ok then The working week should be cut to 21 hours to help boost the economy and improve quality of life, a left-wing think tank has said. Yep like that really help the us to get out of debt, sometimes you wonder what gos on in some ppls head There's quite a lot of evidence that shows working less hours, in many jobs, will increase productivity. If you have increased productivity, and more free time then there's a good chance the economy will improve, and quality of life certainly will. I seem to remember we were promised the 'Age of Leisure' when most jobs would be computerised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I definitely think that working hours should be cut, but it just isn't practical to just drop it to 21 in a 'capitalist' society: with such a particular wealth distribution and waged work. Eight hours is definitely too much to be doing waged and largely meaningless work. But you can't just argue for cutting hours in itself and leave everything else untouched. In the UK many many people have extra jobs on top of their 9-5 because they earn so little. They are hardly going to survive when their hours to cut to 21. Any escape from the authority of the company would be a good thing, though how do you have more control over your life when your ability to make choices is greatly limited by a wage reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I earn enough in 18 hrs to survive nicely, I don't think the extra three hours is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 This is one of the possible consequences of dealing with climate change. The current recession has resulted in significant reductions in CO2 emissions - 3% globally but much higher in the developed world. To sustain this fall means maintaining lower consumption levels. To drop CO2 emissions people probably have to consume less - particularly in the developed world to offset the consequences of reasonable expectations in the second and third worlds for improved quality of life. Making us work less and get paid less is one very draconian way of achieving this. Clearly this is something that politicians do not want to talk about. They want to get consumption back up again to its previous levels. I am far from convinced for example that people want to see the value of their homes drop as wages and affordability drop, their quality of life fall as they get paid for 21 hours work rather than 40, public services decline as government income falls dramatically etc etc... A 21 hour working week would be to quote Sir Humphrey 'a courageous decision' But to impact on climate change (assuming that it is man made) we either have to do something like this or to find other very significant changes in energy, re-aforestation, transport, farming, packaging, communications etc etc that could avoid this option. These need to be on a massive scale. I don't think Copenhagen came anywhere close to doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimeejulia Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 i reckon some people wouldn't know what to do with the extra free time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 i reckon some people wouldn't know what to do with the extra free time prob end up in the pub, Theres one thing it prob make a lot more jobs, because they would have to employ 2 for the one job, so 1 person doing mon tue wed, then the other staff doing thurs fri sat. still its a load of bollocks that there is no way that if working hours were cut in half that you be more productive that would make up the same amount of work for 40 hours a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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