gazza Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 well as they say theres no risk to health then there should not be a problem should there im sure with full rad suits on, it would take 5 man in one truck a matter of mins to knock these off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaipyr Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 in your mind maybe, but to let them suffer is just wrong in mine. I agree with you completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Reasonably informative piece from the Wall Steet Journal. I presume Gazza will issue a rebutal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 whats the point china, you belive in one part and i belive in other parts, but i will take live readings from inside the area and soil samples from outside the 30km from independent specialist in the field than a snippit from a paper anyday. plus the reading of 400times the safe amount for milk in the USA but then again its so little it wont harm you so no point posting something to rebutal your claim, because it just go back and forth, people can make there own mind up, if they chosse to just read mainline news and not look deeper than so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 We are all doomed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hidehiko Nishiyama, a deputy director-general of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), said the decision to raise the severity of the incident from level 5 to 7 -- the same as the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine in 1986 -- was based on cumulative quantities of radiation released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 From NHK today: Death toll still unclear after one month One month after the magnitude 9.0 quake hit northeastern Japan, some hard-hit municipalities are unable to determine how many people remain unaccounted for. The National Police Agency says that, as of Tuesday, 13,232 deaths had been confirmed. The number of missing people reported by families stands at 14,554. But it is likely that the final totals will be much higher. Of 35 towns and villages in coastal areas of Iwate, Miyagi and Fukushima Prefectures that were hit by tsunami, only 9, or about one-third, say they have accurate figures for missing residents. Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture says 2,770 people remain unaccounted for, but it has no idea how much higher this number will rise. In the same prefecture, Sendai and Higashi-Matsushima still haven't added up the total number of missing people. Municipalities around the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant say it will take time to confirm if some residents are missing or have evacuated outside the prefecture. Wednesday, April 13, 2011 03:18 +0900 (JST) The problems of dealing with the after effects of such a destructive tsunami are clearly horrendous even to the point that accurate missing persons data does not seem to be available. The real death toll will probably never be known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Interesting article from the Financial Times on Japan's economic resilience post earthquake and tsunami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Today is the 49th day after the earthquake and tsunami. This is a key day in the Buddhist tradition which is followed strongly in Japan at the time of death. It is the end of the mourning period and normal life can resume. Up until now it appears that the Japanese have been exercising a lot of restraint on personal spending out of respect for the dead. Some Japanese economists are predicting that after the 49th day things will return closer to normal. Apparently the death toll of recovered bodies and people reported by families to be missing is about 28,000. There is a fear that this figure underestimates the number of victims because in many cases it is believed that whole families have disappeared with no one to report them officially missing. The Solitary PilgrimageWith the body burned, the spirit starts to leave. The journey takes 49 days, with seven trials every seven days, and small services are held in this world once a week. Over time, the spirit of the dead is moving farther away from the realm of the living, and the living are further away from the death. On the 49th day, the spirit arrives at its destination and a celebration is held for the mourners. With the dead at its destination, the attention turns to the living. The family ends their mourning and sends thank-you gifts to visitors. For the next year, the family will avoid Shinto celebrations. They won’t send New Year’s cards (but will send apologies for not sending a New Years card). The cycle of remembrance continues beyond the first year. After the 1st, 2nd, 6th, 12th, 16th, 32nd and 49th anniversaries of a death, special services are held. On the 49th anniversary, the spirit is completely free of ties to the physical world. The name card of the deceased is taken into the family home, where it will be remembered by grandchildren now old enough to be grandparents. The name card serves as a protective measure for the family, their connection to an ancestor in a land of pure beauty and enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Sobering reading. ... by four hours after the tsunami hit, the levels of cooling water had dropped enough that the top of the fuel stack was exposed to the air. Shortly after that happened, the temperature in the core reached nearly 3,000°C, and the cooling water boiled off the bottom of the fuel stack. Melting of fuel rods started at 4.8 hours after the earthquake hit, and a partial meltdown had already occurred by 5.1 hours. According to TEPCO, any residual integrity in the fuel rods was gone by 15 hours after the quake, and the reactor core was emptied of fuel by 16 hours. If there's a bright side here, it's that, by melting to the floor of the reactor, most of the fuel was resubmerged in cooling water. Temperatures there are now in the area of 100-120°C. The temperatures still fluctuate based on the rate of cooling water injection, suggesting the majority of the fuel is still inside the reactor vessel. The temperature and pressure readings indicate that the vessel is generally intact, as well. But the continued loss of cooling water indicates that it almost certainly has been leaking water that is heavily contaminated with radioactive isotopes (though not necessarily reactor fuel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 there only telling us what we knew after the explosions all them months ago. anyone with any salk in the indusrty knew and reported that is what had happined. funny really that experts across the world who could only use the video date from the explosions and the pictures comeing from there, could tell you how bad it was, but tepco kept saying o nowt to worry about no problem with anything its all safe. worse than the ruissans in my eyes. just did a quick look round, and i think your link is a bit misleading, or what they have said in it, as tepco have said they belive the rods are still above the water. nhk so once again there saying one thing, then saying something diffrent later on. just found the link to the report u posted. nhk and this bit got me. The firm says the melted rods created small holes in the bottom of the vessel. It believes the amount of radioactive substances that could spread from the reactor will be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyconcrete Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Japan retired nuclear workers ready for duty http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hK489GEaRvbE-siE2CeU8u6psEwQ?docId=CNG.f35afd4820d245c4cf6bc576e0d51ac3.1f1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 good insite into the power plant and how bad some think it really is. part 1 part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 We have a visitor from Japan staying with us at the moment. She says that a lot of progress has been made in fixing transport and temporary housing in the parts of the country affected by the earthquake and tsunami. The main north/south links have been re-established and most feeder roads down to the towns on the coast. Work on removing debris is also progressing. It is looking as if the death toll from the natural disaster is topping 30,000 but it still remains a problem in knowing precise numbers that the massive forces of nature destroyed most of the records in the areas hit by the tidal waves so precise numbers of the missing are not known - and never will be. Life in Tokyo is back to normal though they are still experiencing after-shocks. Understandably people are nervous about how truthful TEPCO are being but it appears that in Japan, amongst the Japanese themselves, the big concern remains reconstruction and knowing how many people were killed by the tsunami - including what has happened to the missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Tokyo radation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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