Chinahand Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 The events in Norway are just horrific. The bomb attack is bad enough, but to coldly shoot 80 or so people, most of them teenagers, is a scarcely imaginable evil. I hope all responsible for it are held to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minxie Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Just read about it now - scary. They have arrested a 32 year old man for both attacks I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Just read about it now - scary. They have arrested a 32 year old man for both attacks I see. A home-grown neo-Nazi, nothing to do with Gaddafi / AL Qaeda etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wife and kids are flying to Norway on Monday. Her uncle has a flat in Oslo not far from the carnage. I'm glad for once she's flying with RyanAir to Oslo, which as it's RyanAir is actually nowhere near Oslo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Senseless and sad act of violence One tweet making the rounds: G.W. Bush, 9/11: "We're gonna hunt you down." - Stoltenberg, 22/7: "We will retaliate with more democracy". Also interesting to see how technology's role in events like this is changing. Not sure if it was the BBC itself that initiated this or someone else on the ground, but messages like "BBC just broadcast appeal for Oslo residents to unlock their wi-fi to enable people who can't get through on phones to communicate online." appeared shortly after the event. Taking that phone networks usually go into meltdown when events like this happen, it's brilliant thinking and while not changing what has happened, it can certainly speed up communications and recovery. Kind of a "why has no-one thought of this before" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torquemada Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/page/s/today-we-are-all-norwegian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 There was a chilling photo on Sky this morning of him standing on the shore, one arm outstretched presumbaly firing in to the water...pixallated images surrounding him....truly awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Ahh, I see the same trend on here as I did on Facebook over the weekend. It seems addicted Celebs deserve more attention and sympathy than innocent civilians going about their daily business. RIP to those that were needlessly slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Chile Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Well Said, Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 I think the difference is the scale of what has happened in Norway. The magnetude of the evil, its implications on the lives of hundreds of families, and the fact that it was perpetrated by an single obssessed fanatic makes it is difficult to comprehend. There is a large distance between these events and our lives. In the case of Ms Winehouse, she's known, familiar, and her tradegy all too understandable. Also you can debate and have different opinions on Ms Winehouse, while here there is basic agreement and threads which consist of people simply trying to find different ways to say the same thing aren't really a success. What I just don't get is how someone living in an affluent, democratic society with few problems from immigration and multiculturalism could become so obssessed and violent in his reaction to a plural society. I find it distasteful to have his picture staring out at me from the BBC News website [is it just me or does he look strikingly like Julian Assange!] I don't think there should be any concentration on him at all, rather pictures of his victims and the coming together of community to mourn and overcome his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauld Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Scary thing is he looked totally "normal", a clean cut well groomed guy, you know what i mean, no deep set cold eyes etc, scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 The Hitler Youth was also full of clean cut, well groomed young men who would angrily wipe the blood of their victims off their jackboots before it could stain them. A corrosive ideology cares little for the physical appearance of the bodies it infects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 The current TV picture shows him wearing a circular arm badge with the words "marxist shooter" around the top and bottom edge The meaning of that depends on intonation and where you breathe or pause. In his case it appears to be clear he shoots people he thinks are marxists, rather than that he is a marxist who shoots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweek Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I don't think he should be getting any TV coverage at all - or very limited. The 24 hour news channels might as well be out signing the next nutter up. Nutters only do this kind of thing in the name of their 'cause' for the very same publicity the news channels all seem to be prepared to give this nutter. Few seem to realise this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 They should have shot the fucker on site, 1 in each kneecap, one in the balls and a gut shot....then airlifted to oslo before dropping him from a great height into the square he planted the bomb in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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