P.K. Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Rmanx, PK, do you think that the Norwegian government should screen a group of people sympathetic to Breivik for him to socialise with? I'm not trying to catch anyone out and I've not thought through this issue fully yet, so I may agree with you in the end - I agree prisoners should be treated with dignity and that no one should suffer deliberate extra punishments, but what is the limit here? I don't think they should screen anyone. Having the right to socialise is not the same as actually doing it. I suspect Breivik may never exercise the rights he has been given. Plus I would put him in a normal cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Brevik should be found dead at the bottom of a set of particularly steep and nasty stairs after having accidentally fallen (several times) to the broken glass littered floor at the bottom. Problem solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 How you treat your prisoners, regardless of the emotion behind the crime, is an indication of your society. Either everyone has human rights or no-one gets them. Some people deserve to lose all rights when they act sub-human. This bastard should have been put down, not fed and watered. Human Rights should be not be an either or situation. Once you start adding caveats and conditions, there really is no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 How you treat your prisoners, regardless of the emotion behind the crime, is an indication of your society. Either everyone has human rights or no-one gets them.Spoken like a true liberal moron. One day, you may be (possibly through no real fault of your own) at the mercy of the courts. See how quick you start bleating about your rights. It's the same of the GC, either we play by the rules or we can't claim protection under them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Brevik should be found dead at the bottom of a set of particularly steep and nasty stairs after having accidentally fallen (several times) to the broken glass littered floor at the bottom. Problem solved! Typical low brow response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 How you treat your prisoners, regardless of the emotion behind the crime, is an indication of your society. Either everyone has human rights or no-one gets them.Spoken like a true liberal moron. One day, you may be (possibly through no real fault of your own) at the mercy of the courts. See how quick you start bleating about your rights. It's the same of the GC, either we play by the rules or we can't claim protection under them. But we don't have protection from the rules because the rules have been thrown away to pander to liberal concerns about care for the welfare of the guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 who came up with this thread title? its like something out of the bella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Brevik should be found dead at the bottom of a set of particularly steep and nasty stairs after having accidentally fallen (several times) to the broken glass littered floor at the bottom. Problem solved! Typical low brow response. Typical liberal window licker's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 ...concerns about care for the welfare for all Corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Typical liberal window licker's opinion. Is that literally the best you can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 rmanx, rather than playing troll ping pong with manxb&b it would be nice to hear your opinion on the judge's requirement for the Norwegian state to "facilitate a community" for Breivik and what you think that means. What level of community is it acceptable for the state to provide to a neo-nazi sociopath so that his human rights aren't infringed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 That is a difficult one to answer. Putting him general population maybe harmful to his health (prison is a dangerous place after all), however keeping in isolation for the rest of his life is inhuman. Obviously putting his with other "neo-nazi sociopaths" isn't a good idea either, as this will create an echo chamber. As an armed individual he was extremely dangerous, however unarmed he is just another angry man. Put him in with other "at risk" inmates. I doubt Brevik will ever be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Typical liberal window licker's opinion. Is that literally the best you can do? It's all that is needed, short, succinct, to the point and factually correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 That is a difficult one to answer. Putting him general population maybe harmful to his health (prison is a dangerous place after all), however keeping in isolation for the rest of his life is inhuman. Obviously putting his with other "neo-nazi sociopaths" isn't a good idea either, as this will create an echo chamber. As an armed individual he was extremely dangerous, however unarmed he is just another angry man. Put him in with other "at risk" inmates. I doubt Brevik will ever be released. Ironic that you should trumpet the human rights of a man who advocates the removal of all Mislims from Europe. On the other hand, typical that you show more contempt for MF posters that don't share your opinions (on any subject) than you do towards an evil monster who slaughtered 77 innocent people, most of whom were children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Ironic that you should trumpet the human rights of a man who advocates the removal of all Mislims from Europe. Its called free speech. He uses it to express his misguided views on Muslims and you use it spout drivel here. You are welcome. On the other hand, typical that you show more contempt for MF posters that don't share your opinions (on any subject) than you do towards an evil monster who slaughtered 77 innocent people, most of whom were children. I didn't say his crimes were not contemptible, they were extremely heinous and horrific. My contempt for some MF posters is not relevant to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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