Aquarius Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 i understand the "F" and the "O", so i can work out from that, that the "A" stands for aquarius, but the "B" has me fucked, Well - I guess whatever it is, is an insult. I am not normal because I sympathise with a girl who was addicted enough to die? I am not normal because I am not slagging her off and saying she deserved it? I am not normal because I express my opinion? I think I will take the advice and FO then! You don't even fucking know me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 i understand the "F" and the "O", so i can work out from that, that the "A" stands for aquarius, but the "B" has me fucked, Well - I guess whatever it is, is an insult. I am not normal because I sympathise with a girl who was addicted enough to die? I am not normal because I am not slagging her off and saying she deserved it? I am not normal because I express my opinion? I think I will take the advice and FO then! You don't even fucking know me! According to the Urban Dictionary, FOAB means Fresh Off A Boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauld Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 you seem to be alittle sensitive, no-one is meaning to offend you, well i wasnt anyway, if you struggle to see the difference between a micky take and malicious insult, then maybe it is time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarius Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 you seem to be alittle sensitive, no-one is meaning to offend you, well i wasnt anyway, if you struggle to see the difference between a micky take and malicious insult, then maybe it is time. Oh I seeeeeeeeee. Someone told me it meant something else. Deffo not that! And Deffo not fresh off a boat! Lol! And not into bombs neither! I' ll get my coat.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Pissed of with all this shite im hearing about this fucking junky. "she was an inspiration" etc. If this is what young folks look up to in this day and age we are all fucked. Addiction is an illness for sure but she she had more resources at her feet than most to sort her self out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauld Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 fair play tho she will be missed, her agent must be gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 fair play tho she will be missed, her agent must be gutted. And her dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauld Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 your trying to trap me into making an allegation about them being one and the same, but that just aint gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I have no sympathy for the TT riders either as they know the risks, but I do respect them for doing something that I don't have the balls to do. Drugs however are not couragous, or clever in any way shape or form. Comparing the two is just stupid. You can make a comparison. But although some people have no cares about going that fast and you admire them for being different to you, you could see both heroin use and riding the TT as both extremely foolish if the preservation of life is of any significance to how you judge things. I don't know myself whether I have particular respect for people for put their life at serious jeopardy for the sake of a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Heroin is an illegal, highly addictive and dangerous drug; it causes criminal activities, pain and suffering the world over. Thousands of people get killed every year in drug wars, trafficking and related crime before the actual cost on life of using the drug is taken into account. "A report by the UK government's drug strategy unit that was subsequently leaked to the press, stated that due to the expensive price of highly addictive drugs heroin and cocaine, that drug use was responsible for the great majority of crime, including 85% for shoplifting, 70-80% of burglaries and 54% of robberies. "The cost of crime committed to support illegal cocaine and heroin habits amounts to £16 billion a year in the UK" (note: this is more than the entire annual UK Home Office budget)" So apart from the immediate problem with Class A Drugs, they put a HUGE burden on the resources for policing, NHS care and insurance companies. Motorcycle racing in contrast generates revenue. Motorcycle racing deaths for 2010 Simon Exton (GBR) Snetterton Myles Byrne (IRL) Skerries 100 Stephen Larkin (NIR) Kells Road Race Peter Lenz (USA) Indianapolis Motor Speedway Shoya Tomizawa (JPN) San Marino Grand Prix Victor Gilmore (NIR) Killalane Pascal Grosjean (SWI) Dubai Autodrome Paul Dobbs 2010 Isle of Man TT Supersport TT Race 2 Martin Loicht 2010 Isle of Man TT Supersport TT Race 2 Jamie Adam 2010 Manx Grand Prix Junior Chris Bradshaw 2010 Manx Grand Prix Junior That is 11 men who died whilst racing, less than 1 a month globally. Drug related deaths in the UK for 2009 2878 An average of 239 per month or 8 a day IN THE UK ALONE. Your witness....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I have no sympathy for the TT riders either as they know the risks, but I do respect them for doing something that I don't have the balls to do. Drugs however are not couragous, or clever in any way shape or form. Comparing the two is just stupid. You can make a comparison. But although some people have no cares about going that fast and you admire them for being different to you, you could see both heroin use and riding the TT as both extremely foolish if the preservation of life is of any significance to how you judge things. I don't know myself whether I have particular respect for people for put their life at serious jeopardy for the sake of a race. I don't know what to make of Professor Nutt - but he tried to get a debate going on our perceptions of harm/the war on drugs etc by comparing Ecstasy to Horse riding. Link. My immediate unformed opinion is that this is a very narrow view of harm - I believe that the overall behaviours associated with horse riding compared with the overall behaviours associated with ecstasy use show Ecstasy to have worse social outcomes, even though the specific risks of getting on a horse are not particularly different from taking a tablet. Over Ms Winehouse's problems and my sympathies for her - well I'd like to ask people's opinions on Kurt Cobain - someone who's music and lyrics definitely influenced me, and who had a more direct way of inducing harm - with a shotgun. Should we be more or less sympathetic of his fate than Amy's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Comparing Kurt Cobain's impact on music to Amy Winehouse's would be like comparing John F Kennedy to Tony Brown. Even in dying, Cobain gave us all a gift in releasing Dave Grohl to form the Foo Fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Don't know much about Kurt Cobain's life story, but listening to 'Lithium' and with the obvious title, wasn't he genuinely mentally ill, as opposed to being led astray and becoming addicted to alcohol/drugs? Another difference is that his was pretty clearly suicide, whereas Amy Winehouse's death will probably turn out not to be deliberate. In both cases a waste of a young talent. I do agree with Bob however that Dave Grohl's career improved immeasurably after Nirvana exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Your witness....... I think your rational explanation is fair enough. It was only in the previous post that you made the distinction between the two based on the high value that you place those who go in the TT. In that sense, I can point out problems with that view. But if, as you have in your later post, talk about comparison based on the 'lower opinion' of those who do heroin then that would be a different matter but one you are quite right about, I think. My immediate unformed opinion is that this is a very narrow view of harm - I believe that the overall behaviours associated with horse riding compared with the overall behaviours associated with ecstasy use show Ecstasy to have worse social outcomes, even though the specific risks of getting on a horse are not particularly different from taking a tablet. Worse social outcomes from ecstacy? Do you mean having people who really can't dance getting on up on the floor and feeling silly about it the next day or people being grumpy the day after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauld Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 yes he was abit lacking in context there, impression given is that ectacy users would be violent or will steal to support a habit. i know enough to know Es get people all luvved up, i also remeber the picture of the girl found slumped over dead in the papers from Es, even if i would have seen them, that picture in the press made sure one would never pass my lips, and dope makes people fall asleep, i also know heroin turns people into thieves prostitutes and murders, there again i also know that mary had alittle lamb and its fleece was white as snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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