Gladys Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Hasn't she got some kind of imposed wind limitation presumably to be increased once certain criteria are met? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Hasn't she got some kind of imposed wind limitation presumably to be increased once certain criteria are met? Was certainly announced that th SPCo was operating a voluntary wind speed restriction on entry to Heysham. Not en voyage. And it’s been in place for 4 months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I was down at the harbour a couple of evenings ago and watched her maneuver about. There wasn't much space. I wouldn't be too happy if I was one of the owners of the yachts that moor near the lifeboat station. Surely they'll be taken out at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Phantom said: I was down at the harbour a couple of evenings ago and watched her maneuver about. There wasn't much space. I wouldn't be too happy if I was one of the owners of the yachts that moor near the lifeboat station. Surely they'll be taken out at some point. I have never understood why DOI have allowed mooring in that space by the boathouse, except of course it's a bit shallower in that area so any boat that's in the way would be good deterrent and stop the master from going any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Phantom said: I was down at the harbour a couple of evenings ago and watched her maneuver about. There wasn't much space. I wouldn't be too happy if I was one of the owners of the yachts that moor near the lifeboat station. Surely they'll be taken out at some point. Turning around in Heysham earlier there is only a few feet clearance either end no wonder it faces restrictions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, finlo said: Turning around in Heysham earlier there is only a few feet clearance either end no wonder it faces restrictions! I thought that we ascertained many weeks ago that there was loads of room and the MX was shorter than the seatruck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I thought that we ascertained many weeks ago that there was loads of room and the MX was shorter than the seatruck. Yes, but the Mx doesn’t have the cut through like SeaTruck. Reduces windage no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) as prophesied Saturday morning's boat is off - for last 16 years I've done a return trip to UK every month and the Ben was 99% reliable - on a few occasions I was the only one in exec club and wondered what the others knew and I didn't (sometimes the forecast was decidedly worse than the voyage) but I could fit under the table in the corner in the really bad weather - I doubt if the trailers suffered any damage - motor bikes I think were more likely to get thrown around but few ventured out on these crossings. Edited December 8, 2023 by Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I thought that we ascertained many weeks ago that there was loads of room and the MX was shorter than the seatruck. I thought so too. But I've been down near the Lifeboat-house watching the Ben maneuver before and never been struck by how little space there appears to be. The thrusters on the Manxman make quite the racket too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: Yes, but the Mx doesn’t have the cut through like SeaTruck. Reduces windage no end. I see. Understanding that though the poster said there was not much room. The amount of room doesn't change with wind speed ( not being patronising). So is ma confused, is there a bigher space than the seatruck or not. Have to admit I never realised they were cuts ours for reducing windage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I have never understood why DOI have allowed mooring in that space by the boathouse, except of course it's a bit shallower in that area so any boat that's in the way would be good deterrent and stop the master from going any further. I was on the sailing when the bow thruster on the Ben failed mid turn - we slowly drifted towards the wall under the gas holder - took some 3 hours to get the tug up but still apparently gently bumped one of the parked vessels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I think it makes sense to not run the ferry in high winds unless you have to. It's inconvenient yes, but we have weather forecast these days. If I see rough weather days in advance I'll change it. I don't like bumby seas. The SPCO have always been really accommodating. Sure, if they are behind they have to sail if they can. Is this discretion applied by the master? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Have to admit I never realised they were cuts ours for reducing windage. Three things. Windage Strengthens the sides due to the rims on the cut outs. Lightens weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Is this discretion applied by the master? Master’s decision, but within company and SOLAS prameters, for boat and harbour and safety of freight and passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, finlo said: Turning around in Heysham earlier there is only a few feet clearance either end no wonder it faces restrictions! The other ferries that use Heysham are some 30 odd feet longer than Manxman, so if it's only a few feet for Manxman then it must be a fag paper for them then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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