Non-Believer Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 But if passage through these ports forms part of the "IoM Visitor Experience", are they doing anything positive for said experience? Is it any wonder we struggle to attract people here, especially after they can be cossetted during their travels elsewhere? And may be accustomed to such? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: But if passage through these ports forms part of the "IoM Visitor Experience", are they doing anything positive for said experience? Is it any wonder we struggle to attract people here, especially after they can be cossetted during their travels elsewhere? And may be accustomed to such? The visitor experience is no better, sometimes significantly worse, at Cork, Santander, Bilbao, Plymouth, IoM Belfast terminal, Genoa, Ancona, Igoumenitsa - all of which I’ve travelled through in last 12 months. Roscoff, Cherbourg, Poole, Caen Ouistreham or St Malo aren’t much different, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) I tend to agree that greater use of Heysham/ Heesham/ would bring about better Port facilities but whether you are driving there or are being busses there , there is a period of lost time. If you arrive by car, then you are pretty much stuck in the queue for loading, so what good would better port facilities mean t you? The idea of Bussing peeep from Liverpool to Haysham means that they have to curtail their evening at say, 10 pm. to get to Haysham at 2pm, allowing for delays and booked people not turning up on time? 4 hours !!! A rather long downtime for them? For tourists, they probably don't mind if it's Lpl or Haysham, if it's coach parties, they'll be shipped to where ever! The SP must have analised the LPl / Haysham routes? If they are still trying to cling onto both routes, there must be a reason? Of course, if change is forced upon us, then we will surely get used to the idea but is that what customer service is about? Edited October 25, 2019 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 A further thought, if the Sp have analised their routes to perfection, then bussing to lpl for shopping from a single port of Haysham could just as easily be changed to bussing to MChr, for, I think, a better shopping experience??? So, Manchester give us 50 sqillonqid to ship our people to their City??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kopek said: A further thought, if the Sp have analised their routes to perfection... Is there one to Southend? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Where ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Never mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Brittany Ferries acquires Condor from McQuarrie, but as minority partner to another infrastructure fund. Im presuming BF will put managerial and operational skills in. The mention of an infrastructure fund fills me with dread. Maybe we got off lightly with Steam Packet being acquired by IoMG 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) And DOI told they "don't have the capacity to make strategic decisions" by select committee looking into proposed £70M cruise berth (iomtoday online). Wonder what will eventually come out about the promenade...? Edited November 14, 2019 by Non-Believer Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 10:55 PM, Kopek said: I tend to agree that greater use of Heysham/ Heesham/ would bring about better Port facilities but whether you are driving there or are being busses there , there is a period of lost time. If you arrive by car, then you are pretty much stuck in the queue for loading, so what good would better port facilities mean t you? The idea of Bussing peeep from Liverpool to Haysham means that they have to curtail their evening at say, 10 pm. to get to Haysham at 2pm, allowing for delays and booked people not turning up on time? 4 hours !!! A rather long downtime for them? For tourists, they probably don't mind if it's Lpl or Haysham, if it's coach parties, they'll be shipped to where ever! The SP must have analised the LPl / Haysham routes? If they are still trying to cling onto both routes, there must be a reason? Of course, if change is forced upon us, then we will surely get used to the idea but is that what customer service is about? I think your analysis is faulty. 1. there aren’t any 2am ( or 2pm) SeaCat sailings from Heysham. 2. if you want a late night in Liverpool you’re going to stay the night. 3. if the SeaCat sails to Heysham at 7am you can be off loading before 9am and by coach you can be in Liverpool just after 10am. Same as SeaCat to Pierhead. 4. in reverse you have a fixed Liverpool coach departure time of 2 hours before sailing. Check in on board the coach. It’s still going to take less travel time than the Ben from Heysham or Birkenhead or the new Liverpool facility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Fares comparison. the Scottish one is after £100 taxpayer subsidy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, John Wright said: Fares comparison. the Scottish one is after £100 taxpayer subsidy. It won’t stop the moaners complaining though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, John Wright said: Fares comparison. the Scottish one is after £100 taxpayer subsidy. Don't show this to the delinquents in Tynwald, they'll have the fares doubled in no time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, John Wright said: Fares comparison. the Scottish one is after £100 taxpayer subsidy. Are the distances equivalent when it comes to pricing though? As in £ per mile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Non-Believer said: Are the distances equivalent when it comes to pricing though? As in £ per mile? I’m sure you could do the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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