John Wright Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Why do you say that? The two new ferries for CalMac that are 4 x over budget and five and three years late for delivery - and still no date - at a guess. And CalMac ( operator ) and CMAL ( the government body that orders and pays for the ships ) are reputed to need a €1.5 billion bail out to modernise the fleet and improve reliability. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Is it too late to fit those optional hybrid engines? I feel that will come back to bite them on the backside, saving money in the short term but not over the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Is it too late to fit those optional hybrid engines? I feel that will come back to bite them on the backside, saving money in the short term but not over the long term. Engines are in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: Engines are in That’s a shame, but I understand they couldn’t have foreseen the events in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: That’s a shame, but I understand they couldn’t have foreseen the events in Ukraine. What saving do you think hybrid engines would bring. They’re still powered by LNG or diesel, that’s what charges the batteries, and, generally, the battery power only gets used in harbour manoeuvres 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) I know this is slightly off topic but I came across Pentland ferries new (ish) vessel MV Alfred and can't believe what a bargain it was at 14 million for not far off the Manannan size catarmaran with freight capability. Edited April 9, 2022 by finlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 On 4/5/2022 at 7:44 PM, John Wright said: What saving do you think hybrid engines would bring. They’re still powered by LNG or diesel, that’s what charges the batteries, and, generally, the battery power only gets used in harbour manoeuvres steam packet hybrid engines have arrived in time for the retrofit. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) On 4/5/2022 at 6:37 PM, John Wright said: The two new ferries for CalMac that are 4 x over budget and five and three years late for delivery - and still no date - at a guess. And CalMac ( operator ) and CMAL ( the government body that orders and pays for the ships ) are reputed to need a €1.5 billion bail out to modernise the fleet and improve reliability. Fair enough. Scotland, for the moment is in the UK but their workforce is notoriously workshy. Going to their GP to get a “line” or whatever they call getting a sickness certificate for no good reason. You can’t tar the rest of the UK with the same brush. Edited April 9, 2022 by The Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: Fair enough. Scotland, for the moment is in the UK but their workforce is notoriously workshy. Going to their GP to get a “line” or whatever they call getting a sickness certificate for no good reason. You can’t tar the rest of the UK with the same brush. I'm not sure if there are any shipbuilding yards left anywhere else in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, finlo said: I'm not sure if there are any shipbuilding yards left anywhere else in the UK? Well there’s your answer then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Fair enough. Scotland, for the moment is in the UK but their workforce is notoriously workshy. Going to their GP to get a “line” or whatever they call getting a sickness certificate for no good reason. You can’t tar the rest of the UK with the same brush. Bollox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Bollox. Well as my old nan used to say “you can only speak as you find” She was a wise old bird bless her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Well there’s your answer then Cammell lairds still building ships on the mersey great reviews about the Sir david Attenbourough boatie Mc Boatface performing well on her maiden voyage to the Ice and there are many yards in Europe and Turkey capable of putting a well priced ferry project together , might even be a few P and O bargains to be picked up soon , at knock down prices , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, Omobono said: might even be a few P and O bargains to be picked up soon , at knock down prices , Like a whole crew or two.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) Going to be some cruise to get it back here from Korea. That will be some sea trial and wonder how they will crew the journey . 12,393 nautical miles taking around 52 days at 10 knots. Around 14,250 miles as we know it. Quite a journey Edited April 9, 2022 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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