cissolt Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 11 hours ago, GD4ELI said: Would be interesting to know who decided on the much increased passenger capacity. Clearly this new boat has not been designed for the Irish sea, especially taking climate change into account. What impact does climate change have on the boat? Apart from having to traverse around wind farms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, cissolt said: What impact does climate change have on the boat? Apart from having to traverse around wind farms More and stronger storms. More extreme weather events. Those high sides are not going to help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NoTail said: 4.55 still not loaded but looks like it will be soon. Maybe the boat will sail around 5.30 to 6. It's been a long cold night. Still not sailed. Expected to depart around 7 am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Its very windy this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 High side's are nothing to do with climate change just a design fault for a ship that has to maneuver in confined harbour areas. Always been told that the Irish sea imposes totally different design needs because of tide and extreme short wave breaks, hence the previous manx boats were of a design not seen around other waters. And having seen and been on those craft in anything from scorching sun with mirror like sea's to near gales with white water every where they did the job admirably and the only cut in winter passenger numbers were people scared of sea sickness. Always remember the previous Manx man having been to Ireland coming down the east coast on a flat calm mill pond coming past us(we were in a boat not waliking) just 1 1/2 miles of the coast at Groudle doing 18 knots, the bow cleaving the water was a site to behold. Oh for a video camera. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Question , what happens when an indestructible force meets an immovable object. I don’t know but let’s build a sea wall and see. Hope they did the maths on this one. The sea is a mighty power . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Its very windy this morning. Agreed. It sounds far windier than the weather forecast would suggest. Glad I am not anywhere near a boat at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Agreed. It sounds far windier than the weather forecast would suggest. Glad I am not anywhere near a boat at the moment. My forecast is saying anything between 25 and 52 gusting. Sounds like you’re getting the upper end of that depending on direction etc. And I agree . No thank you . Edited November 23, 2023 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 The captain has just told us we are about to set sail. May arrive around 11am. Generally the passengers are not happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 It does seem a bit odd to cancel a full sailing well ahead of time based on the weather forecast, but then run the delayed previous return at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, NoTail said: The captain has just told us we are about to set sail. May arrive around 11am. Generally the passengers are not happy Any reason given out of interest? Have you been sat loaded just waiting to depart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: High side's are nothing to do with climate change just a design fault for a ship that has to maneuver in confined harbour areas. Always been told that the Irish sea imposes totally different design needs because of tide and extreme short wave breaks, hence the previous manx boats were of a design not seen around other waters. And having seen and been on those craft in anything from scorching sun with mirror like sea's to near gales with white water every where they did the job admirably and the only cut in winter passenger numbers were people scared of sea sickness. Always remember the previous Manx man having been to Ireland coming down the east coast on a flat calm mill pond coming past us(we were in a boat not waliking) just 1 1/2 miles of the coast at Groudle doing 18 knots, the bow cleaving the water was a site to behold. Oh for a video camera. “People scared of sea sickness” I am not scared of sea sickness, and have only been sick on a ferry once means years ago which couldn’t really be blamed on weather conditions. However to suggest winter figures see a dip because of a fear is stupid. Why would I deliberately put myself in a situation where due to the time of year and likelihood of bad weather I am quite likely to be delayed or have to tolerate a long crossing with people throwing up all around me. There would have to be an extremely good reason for me to voluntarily get on a boat in winter when it’s much easier to fly so I never book them between October an March but it’s nothing to do with a fear of sea sickness. It’s about valuing my time and my comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: Any reason given out of interest? Have you been sat loaded just waiting to depart? He mentioned some sort of cockup but did not elaborate. Yes we just sat loaded for a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub3 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I cannot help but think there are issues with the Manxman or the way it is manned as the Seatruck Progress a mere 9mts longer than the Manxman has sailed from Liverpool to Dublin as scheduled and to be fair there appears to be a lot of other ferries running to schedule. I know it is a new boat but they have had it long enough to get to used to it's handling as any new boat. If there are harbour issues with silt etc. is that not the responsibility of the owners to maintain and make sure it is fit for purpose. IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: I cannot help but think there are issues with the Manxman or the way it is manned as the Seatruck Progress a mere 9mts longer than the Manxman has sailed from Liverpool to Dublin as scheduled and to be fair there appears to be a lot of other ferries running to schedule. I know it is a new boat but they have had it long enough to get to used to it's handling as any new boat. If there are harbour issues with silt etc. is that not the responsibility of the owners to maintain and make sure it is fit for purpose. IMHO. Maintenance (at times) isnt exactly a strong point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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