HelmutX Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Yeah, GD4ELI, hopefully the beer was plentiful too! And should have been complimentary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, HelmutX said: Yeah, GD4ELI, hopefully the beer was plentiful too! And should have been complimentary! Was too young for beer I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, swoopy2110 said: I saw someone tag someone on FB who was on it writing - "Hope you are ok"... Jesus christ. What does she actually think has happened other than the boat taking longer than it should have taken. You missed a bit: "Hope you are ok... hun" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Barlow said: You missed a bit: "Hope you are ok... hun" Could always be someone with big health issues .can’t be too quick to judge . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 You made me feel pretty shit now. And deservedly so. I have been sea sick on a number of rare occasions, and each time as far as I was concerned I would have been more than happy for someone to just shoot me and throw me overboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Barlow said: You made me feel pretty shit now. And deservedly so. I have been sea sick on a number of rare occasions, and each time as far as I was concerned I would have been more than happy for someone to just shoot me and throw me overboard. Back to the trips I made in school holidays to attend CCF camps - one crossing was so bad the police dogs onboard were sick. It was that bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Frances said: If they loaded the passengers then sat in port for hours then how did they load the freight - Manx Radio is carrying the story that the problem was due to insufficient port staff (presumably freight tugs + drivers to load the trailers) as freight is normally loaded first - the departure abt 7am would I think be near high water - possibly due to the suddenly found silt the channel over the sandbank outside the harbour isn't deep enough for the boat - anyway it will demonstrate what the boat is like in poorer weather than it has sailed so far. Maintenance costs money - not something Peel Ports willingly expend - catch is Liverpool is also a Peel Port and though spending almost the same amount as the boat cost on the new facility there it cannot handle freight. I understood Liverpool can handle freight, just not at 2am as it’s a residential area, where did yo7 read it can’t handle freight & don’t say facebook!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: one crossing was so bad the police dogs onboard were sick People have been searching for the origin of the phrase "as sick as a dog". Now we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, Barlow said: You made me feel pretty shit now. And deservedly so. I have been sea sick on a number of rare occasions, and each time as far as I was concerned I would have been more than happy for someone to just shoot me and throw me overboard. Yes been there too. And as for it leaving once you get off the ship….nahhhh I was in a mess for days. But I was more referring to someone with ongoing health issues , might even been getting treatment etc. no biggy don’t beat yourself up we’ve all done it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Banker said: I understood Liverpool can handle freight, just not at 2am as it’s a residential area, where did yo7 read it can’t handle freight & don’t say facebook!! I thought the problem was lack of a marshaling area needed for the freight - maybe I misunderstood but all the initial description of Manxman was that it would mostly work the Douglas-Heysham route with possible Weekend winter service to Liverpool rather like the Ben did to Birkenhead and thus a marshaling area was not required 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, Frances said: I thought the problem was lack of a marshaling area needed for the freight - maybe I misunderstood but all the initial description of Manxman was that it would mostly work the Douglas-Heysham route with possible Weekend winter service to Liverpool rather like the Ben did to Birkenhead and thus a marshaling area was not required I think that Liverpool can be used for freight in an emergency. I would hope that the winter weekend sailings to and from Liverpool are a big success, to the point that the Manxman is at maximum passenger and vehicle capacity at both sailings otherwise the new ferry terminal will be a great underused white elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Question , what happens when an indestructible force meets an immovable object. I don’t know but let’s build a sea wall and see. Hope they did the maths on this one. The sea is a mighty power . write to Morecambe Council, they built one and it's still there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 43 minutes ago, 2112 said: I think that Liverpool can be used for freight in an emergency. No it cant. There is no marshalling yard or loading facilities. It could be used for RORO but that would be a tiny proportion of the freight we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Banker said: I understood Liverpool can handle freight, just not at 2am as it’s a residential area, where did yo7 read it can’t handle freight & don’t say facebook!! There are planning restrictions. Both time of day and (a very limited) number of days per year if the Heysham facilities aren’t able to be used. However availability of a marshalling area or tug masters and drivers would limit that severely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 hours ago, cissolt said: What are you basing that on? The met office data disagrees with you. 9 hours ago, GD4ELI said: More and stronger storms. More extreme weather events. Those high sides are not going to help. NOAA and UK Met Office studies showing that the intensity of tropical storms in the Atlantic is increasing. Not sure of any specific data for here, but most of our big storms are the arse end of Hurricanes. https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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