La Colombe Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Fuck me, no newspapers in the shops tomorrow? That's just not acceptable. What are we going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, La Colombe said: Fuck me, no newspapers in the shops tomorrow? That's just not acceptable. What are we going to do? Get your newspaper 📰 online. It’s cheaper also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, forestboy said: Get your newspaper 📰 online. It’s cheaper also. And how is that going to help when the bog roll runs out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, La Colombe said: Fuck me, no newspapers in the shops tomorrow? That's just not acceptable. What are we going to do? The daily mail website will be overwhelmed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, newaccount said: How many got cancelled due to crew issues ? I have no idea but I know they don't go if they think they won't get back. That means 50% of the customers are disappointed unnecessarily. I'm not saying it's right, just pointing out one advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, La Colombe said: And how is that going to help when the bog roll runs out? Wipe your arse with your phone. Derrrr! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 45 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yeah but why can't they alter the times slightly. If tides only shift by 25 mins each day then surely that's only 12.5mins for 12 hours. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/tutorial_tides/tides05_lunarday.html#:~:text=High tides occur 12 hours,24 hours and 50 minutes. It’s about an hour each day, so 25 or 30 mins per 12 hours. But you’re still ignoring the fact that the height of water above datum doesn’t just change with the tide on a regular cycle, every day. The depth of water also depends on weather, wind, atmospheric pressure and phase of the moon. In simple terms, the depth of water at low tide varies daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: Listening to Brian Thomson on the radio this morning, I think there's little wonder this dispute is still dragging on. He came across as very arrogant and dictatorial. Hi main argument seems to be that if you decide to be a seafarer then you should expect to live on board. Presumably despite the fact that you may have been a seafarer for many years and having a contract of employment that states the opposite. He also went on to say that the Racket doesn't expect workers to go over and above their contact so the work to rule won't make much difference, but then goes on to say he can't guarantee sailings won't be cancelled as a result, not sure which is true. He doesn't seem to have many leadership qualities to me. I too heard him on the radio this morning. Seemed quite an unpleasant piece of work. Chillingly reminiscent of the union bashers in power operating in the Thatcher era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyond Belief Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Wipe your arse with your phone. Derrrr! or your MHK's manifesto, either way they are both covered in sh1t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yes that's because if they get stuck in Heysham they have to find them accommodation and pay overtime I guess. If they lived on board doesn't matter if they are in Douglas or Heysham. That means we get fewer sailings cancelled but crap for the crew. That so misses the point. There are two crews needed for 24 hour operation, 4 sailings. At the moment one is on board, the other ashore. If it gets stuck in Heysham there’s enough space for the onboard crew to bed down, but they then can’t sail again until a minimum of 12 hours have elapsed. I’m not sure if that’s from, let’s say 23.59, or from 06.00 when their duty would normally have ended. The hope, with a second crew permanently on board is that they can go at any time on day 2 or 3. As they’ve got to try and get back to the standard timetable, not just for passengers, but for freight logistics, I just don’t see they’ll actually squeeze any more sailings in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, WTF said: have these teething problems been sorted out yet ? They're going for dentures now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, John Wright said: That so misses the point. There are two crews needed for 24 hour operation, 4 sailings. At the moment one is on board, the other ashore. If it gets stuck in Heysham there’s enough space for the onboard crew to bed down, but they then can’t sail again until a minimum of 12 hours have elapsed. I’m not sure if that’s from, let’s say 23.59, or from 06.00 when their duty would normally have ended. The hope, with a second crew permanently on board is that they can go at any time on day 2 or 3. As they’ve got to try and get back to the standard timetable, not just for passengers, but for freight logistics, I just don’t see they’ll actually squeeze any more sailings in. I see what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, John Wright said: It’s about an hour each day, so 25 or 30 mins per 12 hours. But you’re still ignoring the fact that the height of water above datum doesn’t just change with the tide on a regular cycle, every day. The depth of water also depends on weather, wind, atmospheric pressure and phase of the moon. In simple terms, the depth of water at low tide varies daily. I'm sorry. I don't think for one minute that's the reason it didn't sail. I respect your intelligence but that just does not add up. They could have sailed at a different time. Your explanation would mean they could never get 4 sailings in per day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 And we have seen them run constant sailings at busy TT times. Come in discharge, sail light back to England load head back to island, rinse repeat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I'm sorry. I don't think for one minute that's the reason it didn't sail. I respect your intelligence but that just does not add up. They could have sailed at a different time. Your explanation would mean they could never get 4 sailings in per day. No, it doesn’t. It’s extremes, monthly spring tides, very low pressure, winds blowing the wrong direction, as well as the regular tide cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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