finlo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: And Peel's dredging... I don't know why they don't do it properly with a real dredger instead of pissing about with a 360 mounted on the deck of some dinky little tub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, finlo said: I don't know why they don't do it properly with a real dredger instead of pissing about with a 360 mounted on the deck of some dinky little tub! Cos they get paid each time. And people who should know better don't question the reasoning and invoices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Is that the max or do they take on ballast to get to that every time. Don't quote me but I would imagine they would ballast it down to that for stability if it was sailing light. Although if that was the case it would be able to discharge the ballast in port to give it more leeway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, finlo said: Don't quote me but I would imagine they would ballast it down to that for stability if it was sailing light. Although if that was the case it would be able to discharge the ballast in port to give it more leeway? Great minds think alike. I suppose though if it was fully loaded there may not be any ballast on board. I confessI learnt all my seamanship from the Onedin line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Great minds think alike. I suppose though if it was fully loaded there may not be any ballast on board. I confessI learnt all my seamanship from the Onedin line. Triangle for me haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Could it be that Peel doesn't warrant a full dredge? The pleasure boats could go somewhere else? Peel is a working harbour, as long as the working can proceed, why spend more??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Maybe we have too many Marinas??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kopek said: Could it be that Peel doesn't warrant a full dredge? The pleasure boats could go somewhere else? Peel is a working harbour, as long as the working can proceed, why spend more??? The silt is full of PCBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kopek said: Maybe we have too many Marinas??? Never... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kopek said: Could it be that Peel doesn't warrant a full dredge? The pleasure boats could go somewhere else? Peel is a working harbour, as long as the working can proceed, why spend more??? Peel ports you plonker Rodney! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: Is that the max or do they take on ballast to get to that every time. Both draughts are unladen, though the SP site give 5.2 m for the Manxman. It lists the Ben as 5.6 m loaded, but there's no figure for the new boat, understandably I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The silt is full of PCBs That doesn't counter my position above tho' does it? It could be that the best solution would be to leave the PCB deposits where they are in the upper Harbour and just keep the lower Harbour free for commercial use? May be the end of the Marina but there are others? At some time in the future, when we are flush with money, we could address the source of the PCBs up Rushen Mines or maybe we might be 'required' to do so but to keep Peel Marina operating? I don't think so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 if you look above Peel marina there is a shingle bank building up by the former Manx marine it must be approaching 1000+ tonnes just imagine how much has been flushed into the marina , why they didn't include a spill way to take river water plus the deposits away or silt traps similar to Douglas harbour I don't know , rather spend another £7 million and bring a dredging company from the UK , incidently anyone know what happened to the suction dredger the DOI bought at great cost ? that was going to be used on a regular basis in Peel last I heard it was hidden at Jurby somewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Kopek said: That doesn't counter my position above tho' does it? It could be that the best solution would be to leave the PCB deposits where they are in the upper Harbour and just keep the lower Harbour free for commercial use? May be the end of the Marina but there are others? At some time in the future, when we are flush with money, we could address the source of the PCBs up Rushen Mines or maybe we might be 'required' to do so but to keep Peel Marina operating? I don't think so! FFS, this pisshead stood for election, he'd have fitted in just fine with Wilde. This thread is about Heysham and its owner Peel keeping on top of necessary maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: FFS, this pisshead stood for election, he'd have fitted in just fine with Wilde. This thread is about Heysham and its owner Peel keeping on top of necessary maintenance. To be fair to Kopek I'm not sure if all his 'confusions' are entirely serious or whether he's just winding people up by pretending to misunderstand things. (Incidentally the Peel in Peel Group and its predecessors has nothing to do with the Isle of Man, it's named after Peel Tower near Bury, the site of some of the property group's early purchases). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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