x-in-man Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 What they need is a big song and dance about having another boat, that takes freight, leaving the Ben to handle passengers and the millions of coaches when the not so fast craft cannot run. They also need to speak to the seles man who sold them a boat, that needed extensive conversion, was unsuitable for the Irish Sea and would have half a million delivery mines on it before it could even be converted. I love the bit on the announcements on the boat, the largest passenger ferry if it's type operating in the Irish Sea. Presumably because others knew running one of those across that stretch of water would lead to all sorts of problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 That's why they say they need the agreement sorting...or they won't buy another boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We need Stena Line or P&O. Stream Packet have had their day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think it's unfair to blame the boat, it's not a breakdown in the boat, it's external damage so blame all the fishing gear floating about. Maybe the harbours need to get a minesweeper or erect anti-submarine nets across the tide rip to leave a clear entrance channel. How would you feel if someone kept slashing your car tyres every time you went out in the car, you can't blame the driver, or car maker, or even the tyre maker, so stop kicking them when they are down, you're like a load of drunken thugs on a night out /flack jacket on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Quote :- How would you feel if someone kept slashing your car tyres every time you went out in the car, you can't blame the driver, or car maker, or even the tyre maker What I would do is rapidly reach the conclusion that I had the wrong tyres on my car or that I had a car that could not be fitted with tyres that would be resistant to being slashed. If I did not then as the driver I would be to blame, the tyres that I had bought were not fit for purpose, and I had bought the wrong car because it could not be fitted with the requisite tyres. So yes, blame can be apportioned, first to the boat owner, then to the form of boat, and if both were demonstrably blame free, the 'tyres'. There comes a point when a thing is plainly not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Quote :- How would you feel if someone kept slashing your car tyres every time you went out in the car, you can't blame the driver, or car maker, or even the tyre maker What I would do is rapidly reach the conclusion that I had the wrong tyres on my car or that I had a car that could not be fitted with tyres that would be resistant to being slashed. If I did not then as the driver I would be to blame, the tyres that I had bought were not fit for purpose, and I had bought the wrong car because it could not be fitted with the requisite tyres. So yes, blame can be apportioned, first to the boat owner, then to the form of boat, and if both were demonstrably blame free, the 'tyres'. There comes a point when a thing is plainly not fit for purpose. but you'd never blame the real culprit with the knife ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny F Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The problem I have with the racket is, I don't believe the press releases about the reason for the problem any more. They have blamed fishing gear so many times in the past, when I know for a fact from first hand knowledge that its not fishing gear, that now I can't believe them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The problem I have with the racket is, I don't believe the press releases about the reason for the problem any more. They have blamed fishing gear so many times in the past, when I know for a fact from first hand knowledge that its not fishing gear, that now I can't believe them. yeh, we know all that, and nobody has ever walked on the moon either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny F Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The problem I have with the racket is, I don't believe the press releases about the reason for the problem any more. They have blamed fishing gear so many times in the past, when I know for a fact from first hand knowledge that its not fishing gear, that now I can't believe them. yeh, we know all that, and nobody has ever walked on the moon either It appears that you are questioning my first hand knowledge of this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I blame the wrong types of snow leaves managers passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yee haa yessir! Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We need Stena Line or P&O. Stream Packet have had their day Stena and p&o are sorted with decent routes on the irish sea and the English channel! This would be a Mickey mouse operation to them plus I think dealing with the iom government would put them off aswell! But something needs to be done and fast! Sure the user agreement between the sp and the government is sorted already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yee haa yessir! Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The problem I have with the racket is, I don't believe the press releases about the reason for the problem any more. They have blamed fishing gear so many times in the past, when I know for a fact from first hand knowledge that its not fishing gear, that now I can't believe them. I was chatting to an engineer/mechanic whom I know well and he was saying the engines on the mannanin are fcuked and have been for along time, but he's not complaining as it's extra money for him working round the clock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Quote :- How would you feel if someone kept slashing your car tyres every time you went out in the car, you can't blame the driver, or car maker, or even the tyre maker . There comes a point when a thing is plainly not fit for purpose. but you'd never blame the real culprit with the knife ? If there were an indeterminate number of culprits I would concern myself with ensuring that what I was doing would be immune to what they did. Look, the boat is simply unfit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 MR news says that the problem is a fault with the propulsion system. That could mean almost anything. It certainly does not mention fishing gear this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The wick in the engine has gone out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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