Derek Flint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 16 minutes ago, Manxman2000 said: Is the 24 knots restriction still in place? Don't know. I have a theory that the bow thrusters are under-specced and don't provide rapid enough control. But its just a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman2000 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 19 minutes ago, asitis said: There certainly seems to be interconnected issues with the service at the moment, some of which perhaps should have been foreseen ! I refer to new boat draught and silting, new boat due to it's size cannot remain in port, Liverpool terminal not open, fastcraft being used in weather that it has not been in the past, status of the Ben unknown. Hopefully most if not all of these issues are resolvable before the demands on crossings are at the summer peak as the revenue will be vital it seems. Condor have sent both the Commodore clipper and condor islander to the islands today, it been quite bad in the western channel. Both vessels are Ben sisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 31 minutes ago, asitis said: There certainly seems to be interconnected issues with the service at the moment, some of which perhaps should have been foreseen ! I refer to new boat draught and silting, new boat due to it's size cannot remain in port, Liverpool terminal not open, fastcraft being used in weather that it has not been in the past, status of the Ben unknown. Hopefully most if not all of these issues are resolvable before the demands on crossings are at the summer peak as the revenue will be vital it seems. I think you have mentioned this. Quite a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 41 minutes ago, Manxman2000 said: Makes you wonder if sending an ageing aluminium fast craft out into conditions like that is sensible. According to “Windy” the wave height between Douglas and Liverpool was 3.5 mts in places and if it got worse in the Mersey, I think it should have remained tied to the rock. Well I think those sort of decisions are best left to those who have the technical expertise and experience to make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 21 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I think you have mentioned this. Quite a few times. nowhere near as often as IOM and tesco whinging though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 31 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I think you have mentioned this. Quite a few times. Goodoh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightening McQueen Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 What’s with Manannan still in harbour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Lightening McQueen said: What’s with Manannan still in harbour? Running late innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 12 minutes ago, finlo said: Running late innit. Cancelled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) Manannan couldn't keep the ramp down at Liverpool finally get off for the nominal 11.15 sailing at 15:25 - arrived after a voyage during which the master reduced speed because at full speed the journey was just too uncomfortable - all the cars were specially tied down Manxman is becoming obvious as the white elephant, neither of its two target ports can really cope with it, extremely unlikely the boat will be sensibly filled with passengers during 6months of the winter season, full capacity will not be allowed for safety reasons, must be costing significantly more than the Ben did in fuel - one suggestion I heard today was that the South Korean builders wanted to enter the small cruiseship business and Manxman was costed as a demonstrator and the SPCo bosses (ie the non sailing officers) were temped and overruled objections from experienced staff Edited April 9 by Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, asitis said: new boat due to it's size cannot remain in port It can remain in port, just not during the week when they're working on the KEVIII pier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 21 minutes ago, Nellie said: Cancelled. With how late in from Liverpool it was in the end, with all the untethering of cars and reloading to do, it was never going to make the 2nd return today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 34 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: It can remain in port, just not during the week when they're working on the KEVIII pier He doesn't seem to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 36 minutes ago, Frances said: suggestion I heard today From a reliable source of course? It's nothing like a cruise ship. It's a modern ferry. That's what they are like (apart from the 2 big fuck off vehicle decks of course) Who makes this stuff up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 38 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: With how late in from Liverpool it was in the end, with all the untethering of cars and reloading to do, it was never going to make the 2nd return today. That's probably true, so why didn't they make a call 4 or 5 hours earlier, so passengers could make other arrangements, re-book or go home, as appropriate? I don't use the Steam Packet very often, although I have family members who should have been on the inbound sailing tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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