John Wright Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 12 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: The boat in the pictures is part of the evacuation system on the Manxman, when all the survivors are aboard the floaty type thingy's they are set free and the two man lifeboat shepherd's them away from the sinking hulk. I think it may be designed to withstand the rigours of a storm so hence using the term lifeboat. It’s a rescue boat, not a lifeboat. The “floaty type thingy’s” are safety rafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman2000 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 12 hours ago, Gladys said: Why, did they not make the crossing without a lifeboat escort? Am sure they could squeeze 958 pax on that lifeboat. More likely it was standing by for the inspection boat. They do on the channel. space for one ore two more on the Monkey Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman2000 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 its all Peels fault, the harbour does not fit the boat. Douglas doesn't fit the boat either but millions are being spent to get it to fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 19 hours ago, cissolt said: I was in the new terminal earlier, we had an announcement about the linkspan moving then another about the new passenger ramp not lining up. Ended up boarding nearly an hour late, foot passengers had to go on via the car ramp. All a bit chaotic. Did they set sail knowing the passenger steps wouldn't lineup? Is this a tidal issue? In other news, my first time visiting the terminal. Hard to see where £10 million has been spent let alone nearly £100 million. I said in a previous post that the new jerry-rigged structure on Manannan - to allow the "jet bridge" to connect at low tide looks weird. It wouldn't surprise me that either the landside or onboard equipment gets damaged soon by the movement of the boat, because it all looks a bit cobbled together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 5 hours ago, John Wright said: It’s a rescue boat, not a lifeboat. The “floaty type thingy’s” are safety rafts. I'm told that because it only has those "floaty type thingys" and a little rescue boat, and no proper lifeboats, it is not allowed into Dublin. Something to do with different regulations in Ireland/EU? Was this not known about when the vessel was designed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casta Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Well I think this is the roughest ride I have ever had on the boat. And we haven't left the Liverpool berth yet. In fact embarkation has halted and we won't be leaving for at least an hour. The cruise liner on 'our old berth' looks ok. Isle of Man Steam Packet knew what it was doing when that berth was chosen and used for over a century? (fact check required). But one thing is for sure, this new berth, albeit just a few hundred yards from t'other one, is a whole lot rougher being nearer to the mouth of the mighty Mersey. It's not particularly a rough sea just now either. Oh and we had to traipse down the vehicle route from the new terminal. Last time we had to do that too, because the "tide was out". Indeed, the new terminal building may well have nice toilets, as reported in the newspaper recently, but as a functional ferry terminal, I would suggest it is a bag of [sorry, you have used up your allocation of characters for this post] 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 36 minutes ago, Casta said: Well I think this is the roughest ride I have ever had on the boat. And we haven't left the Liverpool berth yet. In fact embarkation has halted and we won't be leaving for at least an hour. The cruise liner on 'our old berth' looks ok. Isle of Man Steam Packet knew what it was doing when that berth was chosen and used for over a century? (fact check required). But one thing is for sure, this new berth, albeit just a few hundred yards from t'other one, is a whole lot rougher being nearer to the mouth of the mighty Mersey. It's not particularly a rough sea just now either. Oh and we had to traipse down the vehicle route from the new terminal. Last time we had to do that too, because the "tide was out". Indeed, the new terminal building may well have nice toilets, as reported in the newspaper recently, but as a functional ferry terminal, I would suggest it is a bag of [sorry, you have used up your allocation of characters for this post] The old berth was a floating pontoon. Big difference to a land attached linkspan as they're discovering. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 24 minutes ago, woolley said: The old berth was a floating pontoon. Big difference to a land attached linkspan as they're discovering. Who designed this multi-million pound fiasco? And who signed it off? My travel was disrupted by it the other day, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casta Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 I think we have the worst of both worlds. The terminal is great when the tide is in and the water is calm, but otherwise it's walk the pontoony vehicle loading thing. The river is not particularly rough yet we are going up and down alongside the berth as if we were at sea on a roughish day. There's even the clunking and clanking we get used to at sea. This is bad. If there is going to be delays like this, the reason for which is not clear although it is to do with loading conditions - it is not rough, it is not windy - then this whole thing is a disaster. I cannot see the terminal loading equipment lasting through many winters, and If now is anything to go by, there will be many delays. Should have gone for a posh terminal on terra firma (with or without nice toilets) and a pontoon affair for loading as has been tried and tested over all these many decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Casta said: Well I think this is the roughest ride I have ever had on the boat I have never been lucky enough to get a ride on the boat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casta Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 One of the mooring lines has just snapped. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 More shambles today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Mainwaring Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 13 minutes ago, Casta said: I think we have the worst of both worlds. The terminal is great when the tide is in and the water is calm, but otherwise it's walk the pontoony vehicle loading thing. The river is not particularly rough yet we are going up and down alongside the berth as if we were at sea on a roughish day. There's even the clunking and clanking we get used to at sea. This is bad. If there is going to be delays like this, the reason for which is not clear although it is to do with loading conditions - it is not rough, it is not windy - then this whole thing is a disaster. I cannot see the terminal loading equipment lasting through many winters, and If now is anything to go by, there will be many delays. Should have gone for a posh terminal on terra firma (with or without nice toilets) and a pontoon affair for loading as has been tried and tested over all these many decades. As I've said before. This is not new. Has happened for 3 decades. Happened a few times recently at the old berth. Strong NW winds are relatively unusual so that's why it doesn't occur more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Casta said: One of the mooring lines has just snapped. get your speedos on in anticipation. new teething trouble the boats ropes aren't strong enough to hold it then ??? Edited August 23 by WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casta Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 We're off now, thankfuly. We've been given the safety message ending: "ooh arr, and if you don't pay attention young man I'll 'ave you up in the crows nest". I was waiting for references to Roger the Cook and Seaman Staines but they never came. There's a bit of a swell now we're asail (a nautical term) but absolutely nothing noticeable onboard. I am happy and hopeful to accept that the cause of the situation is a rare occasion. All passengers onboard have taken the situation very well and no moaning (just some saddo texting to Manx Forums). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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