hillshepherd Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Tiddler like the Ben will have no problems at Holyhead.it may give them tossers in liverpool a little to think about with their pissing about over a berth,holyhead suits me fuck liverpool. Edited May 20, 2016 by hillshepherd 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Tiddler like the Ben will have no problems at Holyhead.it may give them tossers in liverpool a little to think about with their pissing about over a berth,holyhead suits me fuck liverpool. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Tiddler like the Ben will have no problems at Holyhead. It will if the Master thinks that Holyhead is an Irish port as in the announcement above or am I getting it wrong? ... Holyhead is not actually on the Island of Anglesey but on the adjacent Holy Island...It is however a major port for getting to and from Ireland from northern England etc ie Stena Line.. How odd though. One Island to another to get to the larger adjacent Island...And the onward journey seems a bit tortuous. I smell a prioritised freight market opportunity with you poor passengers taken along as fare paying ballast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 So, what was the deal the Packet offered to the Grabamint? A once daily stable return sailing to Wales, in return, drop the need for a stage up the Mersey. Fast craft to run to Wales in the Summer, daily, in return those pesky shopping day trips come to an end all the money is kept here to be spent on the island, and the user agreement gets extended for another 100 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 So, what was the deal the Packet offered to the Grabamint? A once daily stable return sailing to Wales, in return, drop the need for a stage up the Mersey. Fast craft to run to Wales in the Summer, daily, in return those pesky shopping day trips come to an end all the money is kept here to be spent on the island, and the user agreement gets extended for another 100 years? More like a deal with Stena Line and newer tonnage access in some sort of joint venture and then an adjustment to the User Agreement.... It is quite common for lines to cooperate in this way. In my day it was called "the Conference"... More than one company either on the same service or linked in some way to share a joint venture and the service was either consolidated or interchangeable and even pooled. That way the Steamies get to be bigger at little cost and expand the service.. Freight is the way to go...It is not about passengers or shopping trips and more than enough money goes off the Island via the Internet.. This could work but it will be for the Steampacket's benefit not yours. Wait and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 CalMac is subsidised to the tune of over £100million a year. It is a great company with a wonderful tradition, but it is very costly. It is in equal measures loved and cursed by the islanders very much like the Steam Packet is here. https://www.calmac.co.uk/corporate/annual-reports @ Barrie: I am not sure that the User Agreement could be called a subsidy. At least not in the straightforward way that CalMac is subsidised. It's a quid pro quo arrangement. The government agrees to shut out competition from its linkspan in return for the SPCo operating a whole load of unremunerative year round passenger services. It's complex. Looks like a duck! Quacks like a duck! etc...Its a boon..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 A consolidated arrangement via Holyhead and an expanded linked in service could fit in with one of the many expressions of interest reportedly shown when IOM Govt asked for potential service providers to come forth. You get a nice omelette but do not break any eggs, tread on toes or ruffle feathers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman2000 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Tiddler like the Ben will have no problems at Holyhead. Holyhead is not actually on the Island of Anglesey but on the adjacent Holy Island...It is however a major port for getting to and from Ireland from northern England etc ie Stena Line.. The port is on Salt Island Barrie, off Holy Island, Off Anglesey, A daily service to the IOM would be good from Holyhead, good road links and the station is on the Harbour. Trains run about half hourly from Chester all main line. Go for it Steam Packet, Link spans are in place for fast craft and plenty of freight space. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It looks like the Ben is in trouble again! According to the AIS site she's circling around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Failed fuel pump. Engineers working on it. Delayed arrival in Heysham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Tiddler like the Ben will have no problems at Holyhead. Holyhead is not actually on the Island of Anglesey but on the adjacent Holy Island...It is however a major port for getting to and from Ireland from northern England etc ie Stena Line.. The port is on Salt Island Barrie, off Holy Island, Off Anglesey, A daily service to the IOM would be good from Holyhead, good road links and the station is on the Harbour. Trains run about half hourly from Chester all main line. Go for it Steam Packet, Link spans are in place for fast craft and plenty of freight space. Cor luvva duck! IOM to Salt Island thence to Holy Island thence to Anglesey and thence to England..Lotta islands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Some archipelago stuff, there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The mods on the Facebook Shops and Services section deleted a thread of comments on the Ben's misfortune today. Is the Steam Packet not a service to the Island? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 not on the news sites either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 A consolidated arrangement via Holyhead and an expanded linked in service could fit in with one of the many expressions of interest reportedly shown when IOM Govt asked for potential service providers to come forth. You get a nice omelette but do not break any eggs, tread on toes or ruffle feathers!! Maybe a few regular sailings to Holyhead to link in to Irish services and through booking arrangements with Irish ferries then do away with direct SPCo sailings to Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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