WTF Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Its one thing causing confusion like the not legal zebras on the prom, they are slow speed but that thing in St Johns is criminal on a fast bit of road. isnt it a 40mph limit along there ??? hardly fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, WTF said: isnt it a 40mph limit along there ??? hardly fast It’s fast enough to kill someone who gets in the way! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, WTF said: isnt it a 40mph limit along there ??? hardly fast Like anybody sticks to that speed limit there? Why would they? The police have given up enforcing speed limits due to lack of manpower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The DOI page that @AlanShimmin was good enough to post says that they didn't install a zebra crossing because it can't be installed in a zone that's above 30mph. It's currently 40mph through there. The Hope, quarter of a mile south, is governed by a 30mph. Approaching the Ballacraine junction to the North is governed by a 30mph? Given that there's the busy junction to the Western Amenity Site along with the two Heritage trail exits onto the Curragh Rd in the same spot, wouldn't it then have made sense to extend the 30 zone from Ballacraine through to the Hope and install a proper crossing at the point? Rather than plaster the road with meaningless (and probably illegal) Celtic art deco in a 40mph zone? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The DOI page that @AlanShimmin was good enough to post says that they didn't install a zebra crossing because it can't be installed in a zone that's above 30mph. It's currently 40mph through there. The Hope, quarter of a mile south, is governed by a 30mph. Approaching the Ballacraine junction to the North is governed by a 30mph? Given that there's the busy junction to the Western Amenity Site along with the two Heritage trail exits onto the Curragh Rd in the same spot, wouldn't it then have made sense to extend the 30 zone from Ballacraine through to the Hope and install a proper crossing at the point? Rather than plaster the road with meaningless (and probably illegal) Celtic art deco in a 40mph zone? you might have a point, are there any other disused railway crossings that have a proper zebra crossing on them ? personally i don't think it should be a crossing at all and anyone wishing to cross should just wait like any other piece of road with no crossing. perhaps the proximity of the horse place and that little gymkhana set up the other side the road is the motivation ?? Edited January 16, 2021 by WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: The DOI page that @AlanShimmin was good enough to post says that they didn't install a zebra crossing because it can't be installed in a zone that's above 30mph. It's currently 40mph through there. The Hope, quarter of a mile south, is governed by a 30mph. Approaching the Ballacraine junction to the North is governed by a 30mph? Given that there's the busy junction to the Western Amenity Site along with the two Heritage trail exits onto the Curragh Rd in the same spot, wouldn't it then have made sense to extend the 30 zone from Ballacraine through to the Hope and install a proper crossing at the point? Rather than plaster the road with meaningless (and probably illegal) Celtic art deco in a 40mph zone? Jeff Robinson – Director of Highway Services, Department of Infrastructure (DOI), Ellerslie Depot, Old Church Road, Crosby, Isle of Man. IM4 2HA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 57 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: While they were digging the road up it would been a perfect opportunity to put a proper crossing there. Underpass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The DOI page that @AlanShimmin was good enough to post says that they didn't install a zebra crossing because it can't be installed in a zone that's above 30mph. It's currently 40mph through there. Does that also extend to Puffin or Pelican crossings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, finlo said: Underpass? Well the potential would certainly have been there, they only went down about 3 or 4 foot but especially as it was closed for months the time was definitely there to build something. No doubt would have cost millions to install though and would need to go through some ludicrous design phase costing 100k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Does that also extend to Puffin or Pelican crossings? To quote the DOI FB page, "A Puffin would need to be installed on a three-way junction, due to the proximity of the junction with the Western Amenity Site this was felt to be inappropriate on a rural road". Whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Not defending the DOI, but they did put something like rumple strips on the road to slow traffic and some selfish resident had them removed ( threateningly so too) because he could hear cars going over them . Not saying there is any connection, because I have no info on today’s rtc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: To quote the DOI FB page, "A Puffin would need to be installed on a three-way junction, due to the proximity of the junction with the Western Amenity Site this was felt to be inappropriate on a rural road". Whatever that means. Well at the very least they should have installed some sort of warning signs to users of the heritage trial so that they were crossing a live carriageway, the paint if anything was quite inviting like some sort of bright coloured pavement. Edited January 16, 2021 by Annoymouse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Well the potential would certainly have been there, they only went down about 3 or 4 foot but especially as it was closed for months the time was definitely there to build something. No doubt would have cost millions to install though and would need to go through some ludicrous design phase costing 100k+ Don’t be giving them any ideas to shut the road again and spend even more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Not defending the DOI, but they did put something like rumple strips on the road to slow traffic and some selfish resident had them removed ( threateningly so too) because he could hear cars going over them . Not saying there is any connection, because I have no info on today’s rtc. No evidence that it did actually happen on this crossing, it’s all assumption at the moment. Those rumble strips were a shit design anyway, within a day people were driving around the edge of them so only one wheel was going over them, they wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes with the amount of wagons going down that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Not defending the DOI, but they did put something like rumple strips on the road to slow traffic and some selfish resident had them removed ( threateningly so too) because he could hear cars going over them . Not saying there is any connection, because I have no info on today’s rtc. Hardly selfish. If ibhad lived in a house for years and they installed those things outside I would be getting them removed as well. Dad enough for people on estates etc that have those stupid speed bumps outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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