Fichdich Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 The head of Operation Yewtree must have the entire Rolling Stone's albums collection. There's clearly no interest in Bill Wyman's dilly dallying with a 13 year old when he was nigh 50!!! Now there's a man who certainly did get a lot of "satisfaction" during those heady days of rock n roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Whole thing is nonsense, a waste of taxpayers money. I hate the compensation culture but I hope any who have been hounded and had their names dragged through the mud unjustifiably sue the accusers and the authorities to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Agreed Woolley. But you have to wonder at the effect of what may well be unfounded accusations on the health of a person in their eighties. There will be no compensation sufficient for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Absolutely. It is cruel beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Certainly, if the person making the allegation is shown to have lied, they should compensate. Alternatively, consider someone who was genuinely abused, makes a complaint, but the police, CPS, or courts decide there's not enough evidence to prosecute or convict. That person was telling the truth, they had been abused but you seem to be saying they should pay their abuser. We can't have a situation where the victim has to gamble on what other evidence comes to light before going to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Absolutely. It is cruel beyond belief. As is child abuse, Wool. For the abused, justice and closure (of sorts) is paramount. It doesn't matter how many years've passed, if a person is guilty of historical crimes such as these the law should prevail. In Rolfie's case, the authorities've had ample time to review the evidence and compile their case. To make his arrest and if necessary, ultimately, bring charges against him, they must have compelling evidence. We just don't know but some of these perpetrators, such as Glitter and Savile were complete monsters and accusations went un-addressed for decades. Victims in the hundreds. The time to start feeling sorrow and empathy for Rolf Harris and all the others yet to come, will be if the allegations prove to be unfounded. But i don't need to tell you this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Old has-been entertainers are easy targets and just fodder for the red tops. I'll start to think they're serious when we start to see paedo politicians getting their collars felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Old has-been entertainers are easy targets and just fodder for the red tops. Yeah, these oldies are probably just ticking over with a pension by now, whereas (perhaps) the still-celebrated old rock and roll stars out there, who are possibly much more guilty of this sort of thing, still have reserves of cash to rake the newspapers through the courts if there is the slightest hint of an allegation towards them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Absolutely. It is cruel beyond belief. As is child abuse, Wool. Of course. But most of the supplementary stuff after Savile such as with DLT involves adult women (at the time) who are coming forward 30 - 40 years on and saying they've been groped. Sorry, there should be some statute of time limitation on this otherwise it's a chancer's charter. Once you're name is sullied, mud sticks for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The real problem is that so much time, money and publicity is being awarded to these 'historical' cases that there are probably more contemporary or on-going ones that are being drained of resources as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prism10 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The real problem is that so much time, money and publicity is being awarded to these 'historical' cases that there are probably more contemporary or on-going ones that are being drained of resources as a result. Not that much time and money I reckon. Take Cyril Smith. He dies, there are some allegations made about him after the Saville documentary. The police investigate it and literally a few weeks later find him guilty. All they have done is taken the word of the accusers at face value it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 BBC News, 11/12/12: Operation Yewtree has 30 officers and has so far cost around £2m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prism10 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 BBC News, 11/12/12: Operation Yewtree has 30 officers and has so far cost around £2m. I wonder how the costs are calculated? Were these 30 officers just sitting around doing nothing before the Saville enquiry, not even been paid. Is it the costs of travelling to the accusers, taking statements, phone calls, paper work, press conferences. I would have thought that is part of the policing budget that is being spent. If it was not on Yewtree it would be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credente Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It does seem incongruous that, at a time when police forces throughout the UK are complaining that budget restrictions are hampering their ability to respond efficiently to all kinds of crimes,; resources, personnel and finance are suddenly available for a 'high-profile' investigation such as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prism10 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It does seem incongruous that, at a time when police forces throughout the UK are complaining that budget restrictions are hampering their ability to respond efficiently to all kinds of crimes,; resources, personnel and finance are suddenly available for a 'high-profile' investigation such as this one. Its bit like when the Tory politicians last week were claiming Thatcher's funeral was nowhere near £10 million because the armed forces were available anyhow. They were deployed in London instead of being at the barracks. In this case the police were there, they just would have done something with less priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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