Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If they relax the restriction on supplying drugs via other sources, then UK gangs would likely take control of the trade. I can't see it working on that premise, but I'm sure other members could come up with something more feasible. Impossible to take control of something you already control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 A small possession? If this isn't Government run and IMO, unlikely to be, then the suppliers would need to be dealers and therefore highlights a problem immediately as It would still be an offence to supply drugs. If they relax the restriction on supplying drugs via other sources, then UK gangs would likely take control of the trade. I can't see it working on that premise, but I'm sure other members could come up with something more feasible. The Amsterdam coffee shop model (although now in its decline) wasn't run by government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 just grow your own, as the report says it would remove the need for criminal cannabis factories its already legal to buy seeds and all the equipment is available on the interweb or use the US model and have dispensaries. In Oakland its completely legalised, rather than just decriminalised, and they even tax it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 just grow your own, as the report says it would remove the need for criminal cannabis factories its already legal to buy seeds and all the equipment is available on the interweb or use the US model and have dispensaries. In Oakland its completely legalised, rather than just decriminalised, and they even tax it As I have warned, taxing it would open up a whole Pandora's Box of unforseen problems Look at it like this: Tax is the governments crack cocaine, they are addicted to it and constantly crave more. Their habit never diminishes Every new recreational drug goes throug a period of pouplarity then decline, dope in the 1950s, LSD in the 60s, amphetamine in the 70s, coke in the 80's and extasy in the 1990s. Heroin isn't really a recreational drug, more a pacifier of the truly fucked up So the government decide to tax the drug of the day( lets call it "Gloop") and land themselves with a whopper of a revenue stream.Five years down the line government staff have multiplied like rabbits on viagra to absorb the increased revenue. Then some middle aged crap celebrity is seen doing "Gloop" and overnight it becomes deeply unfashionable, revenue dissapears and the government start sacking teachers & nurses Keep it illegal, you know it make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Keep it illegal, you know it make sense Righto Del Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 apparently the panel was made up of experts in their field, including an ex cheif of police and head of the british medical research thingy, it took them 6 years of studying to come to their conclusion of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think theirs has a little more weight than yours. It shouldnt be illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 As I have warned, taxing it would open up a whole Pandora's Box of unforseen problems But you are of course failing to distinguish between legalising (and taxing), and decriminalisation. It is the latter to which this latest study refers, an action which would lead to major savings of the £3 billion currently wasted on the failed policies of prevention. Or, a ton of windfall money with no new taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverAgain Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 They should at least allow homegrown for personal use and set a figure as to how many plants you can have at any one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibaba Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 They should at least allow homegrown for personal use and set a figure as to how many plants you can have at any one time. You can grow them pretty big you know. A better way would be to limit floor space or light output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Really? http://www.standard....en-8203208.html Ha ha! Innocent my arse - they've got a big old rusty bong right next to it. And check the pig out - wasted! ; )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 "Yes, we bought them at a car boot sale, didn't we love?" absolutely brilliant. Oh yeah, check this out the oil really does cure cancer, no messing, no lies, real people, real cancers, really cured. There are loads of people trying it, why would the government not want to trail this verses hugely expensive and rather nasty chemo and radiation treatments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 apparently the panel was made up of experts in their field, including an ex cheif of police and head of the british medical research thingy, it took them 6 years of studying to come to their conclusion of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think theirs has a little more weight than yours. It shouldnt be illegal Fair enough, but it took a panel of very bright people six years to reach thier conclusion It took me, an occasional chef & plumber about six minutes to reach mine so I would'nt look at both pronouncements in the same light A little salt might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverAgain Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 They should at least allow homegrown for personal use and set a figure as to how many plants you can have at any one time. You can grow them pretty big you know. A better way would be to limit floor space or light output. Depends on quality of seeds I suppose, but I thought perhaps allowing people to grow 3 plants at any one time would be enough? perhaps possession in public could stay illegal for carrying any more than a ready made joint or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It took me, an occasional chef & plumber about six minutes to reach mine That's handy. Shovel it in one end and flush it away the other. Don't forget to wash your hands.... ; )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 They should at least allow homegrown for personal use and set a figure as to how many plants you can have at any one time. You can grow them pretty big you know. A better way would be to limit floor space or light output. Depends on quality of seeds I suppose, but I thought perhaps allowing people to grow 3 plants at any one time would be enough? perhaps possession in public could stay illegal for carrying any more than a ready made joint or two? Not really. It depends on the type of seed and how you grow it there are hundred if not thousands of different species of plants coming from cross breeding different types. Two main groups are indica and sativa. Indica being short and bush like, as in the photo. They are relatively quick to grow and have lots of buds all over the plant. Smoking indica is a body relaxant, a couch lock effect. Good for chilling out and watching tele. Sativa is generally tall and thin similar to commercially grown hemp. They take longer and have one main bud. Smoking sativa is a head high, very different to indica. Great for late nights debugging computer script. Standard seeds are started on a 18/6 light cycle. Thats 18 hours on and 6 hours off. This simulates long summer days and the plant grows, a vegative state. You can keep this up for as long as you like and the plant will just get bigger and bigger, obviously depending on the pot size and how much space you have to grow, Switching the light cycle to 12/12 will make the plant think winter is on the way and it will start to flower. It then takes anything from 6 to 12 weeks for the buds to ripen before they are ready to harvest. The last few years has seen the development of automatic flowering breeds. These can be left on the 18/6 cycle and will automatically flower after a certain time, depending again on the breed. This is good becasue you can have vegatating and flowering plants in the same room or tent. You can plant a seed every couple of weeks and have a few plants at different development. The one problem with automatics is their yield tends to be much lower, half of a standard plant. But you dont need to be holding so much 'stock' and you are always having a fresh harvest. With standard seeds you either need to grow enough to last the 4 to 6 months for each grow or have 2 tents. You can also get feminised seeds. You are (pretty much) guaranteed to get female plants. You dont want males, they are small and will fertilise the females and produce seeds. Dont want seeds, yuck. Automatic feminised seeds are best for personal grows, 6 to 8 plants is about right. So just setting a limit on number of plants is a bit of a nonsense. Three plants could easily produce kilos of bud, depending on variety and grow method, Better to have a few more smaller plants producing 10 - 20 grams every few weeks, I know someone in the UK that was busted recently. They took his plants, left the kit, and said hard luck mate. That was it. Yeah, yeah, boat in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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