Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I couldn't be arsed doing all that. I'd rather just buy it off someone. Like a dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 if you buy seeds and lights, fans, air filters etc, etc you pay tax. The shops you buy them from pay rent, wages, distribution etc, again all taxed. Money that goes into the system to support school, hospitals, pays police wages etc. If you buy from a dealer the profits go to organised crime to support prostitution, child pornography and guns to shoot police. I guess its an ethical choice. Unfortunately the current situation on the island is simple possession is probably a caution, cultivation is court (so I've been told). Doesnt quite seem logical. I guess none of the drugs policy seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 If you buy from a dealer the profits go to organised crime to support prostitution, child pornography and guns to shoot police. I guess its an ethical choice. Not necessarily, if the dealer is a small producer using the methods of cultivation so graphically described by you. I think this demonstrates the hypocrisy of allowing possession but punishing dealing. The two are inextricable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 If you buy from a dealer the profits go to organised crime to support prostitution, child pornography and guns to shoot police. Not necessarily Growing bucket-loads of cannabis does not seem terribly adult behaviour, but that’s exactly what sixtysomethings Susan Cooper and Michael Foster have been up to. Officers found 159 plants, thought to be worth about £20,000, in their Lincoln farmhouse, while the profits of this criminal enterprise are said to have been as much as £400,000. But not for these drug barons a life of fast cars and designer clothes – instead, the couple gave most of their money to the residents of a Kenyan village. A young man called Wilson, who had been given days to live after developing an infection in his leg, had his amputation paid for, and then there were the children the couple supported through school, not to mention the computers they bought for a hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Legalise the stuff, tax it, and it'll be The Isle of Man.....y Happy People. Tourism and economy up, new shops, cafes, restaurants (I'm gonna open "Munchies" ), plenty of cash generated from year-round tourism. Farmers can grow the stuff, making sure it's not only of good quality (clean Manx air and water) and organic, but also giving them a new revenue stream. Potheads make less trouble than pissheads, so no horror scenarios ala Ibiza to be expected either. Is it gonna happen? Of course not. The backwards hobby politicians in Tynpotwald can hardly imagine what they'll have for dinner, nevermind how good this could pan out. Instead, we will continue with a pathetic and failed drugs policy, where having a spliff can ruin your career - but it's perfectly fine to get drunk and then brag about it. It makes no sense. None whatsoever - and I'm not saying this as some pothead. I've tried dope, I think twice, and didn't like it, and I've even stopped smoking normal cigarettes but this still doesn't make sense. I have yet to see a stoner beat someone up outside a pub at 2am. I have yet to experience being asked "If I have a fucking problem" by a pothead while walking along the prom at night. I have yet to witness a cannabis consumer throw up on a bus after the christmas party. If St Juan would have smoked pot instead of getting wasted on booze, we would not be taking the piss out of him every day until the end of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 well obviously there are exceptions, there always are. But generally if you buy from a dealer the money finds its way back to organised crime. Although your current leader might leave some hope... http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/minister-welcomes-jury-s-decision-on-cannabis-use-1-1777332 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Well fuck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 That was like 100 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 2001 to be precise,so have they prosecuted anyone else for growing or possession since this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 News article from 2010,Cllr Pitts's stance doesn't say much for his ability make balanced rational decisions based on the merits of the individual case. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/drug-case-tenants-should-be-treated-on-merits-1-1747135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Funny how people always refer to cannabis first as the focus of any argument of demonstrating certain drugs as being more acceptable than others. I think cannabis should be legal. But it riskier and potentially health damaging than others that are scheduled. Of the Class A the ridiculous situation is that with ecstasy and magic mushrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Of the Class A the ridiculous situation is that with ecstasy and magic mushrooms. Indeed. Nothing clarifies the stupidity of all drug legislation than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Oops. That should read 'more than this'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Check out this CBS News report which was aired yesterday (21st October): "How Many Jobs Would Be Created If Marijuana Was Legalized Nationwide?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWHV1UAxFZE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokorito Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 just seems so sensible especially like that they cant prosecute because its impossible to raise a jury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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