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Albert Tatlock

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If there was a demand there would in all probability be many and frequent sales or if people were not prepared to sell at the price offered the share price would increase greatly.

Look at the volume of trade in general on markets all over the world at the moment. Very low. It's the thing that everyone is talking about.

Its obvious that you're either Eddie Teares stock broker or you know nothing about markets. This is not about low trading volumes, its about having no market in the share in which to trade which is entirely different.

 

Most of they stuff you've posted in the last few weeks seems to single you out as some sad government butt plug, so far up the arse of the system that you've lost your bearings.

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Most of they stuff you've posted in the last few weeks seems to single you out as some sad government butt plug, so far up the arse of the system that you've lost your bearings.

I assume that you are talking about me being in favour of increasing income taxes in order to maintain close to full employment and being opposed to the privatisation and / or "out sourcing" for profit of govt services (which would inevitably increase business and domestic fees).

 

I have no vested interest whatsoever. None at all. It's quite depressing that you assume some kind of nefarious motive - as if someone cannot express an opinion without having some secret selfish agenda.

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If there was a demand there would in all probability be many and frequent sales or if people were not prepared to sell at the price offered the share price would increase greatly.

Look at the volume of trade in general on markets all over the world at the moment. Very low. It's the thing that everyone is talking about.
Its obvious that you're either Eddie Teares stock broker or you know nothing about markets. This is not about low trading volumes, its about having no market in the share in which to trade which is entirely different.

 

Most of they stuff you've posted in the last few weeks seems to single you out as some sad government butt plug, so far up the arse of the system that you've lost your bearings.

He's just a typical wet socialist who feels the world owes him and the rest of his parasites a job.

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He's just a typical wet socialist who feels the world owes him and the rest of his parasites a job.

Self employed libertarian you utterly selfish git. At a quiet personal level. Nobody owes me anything and I would hate to be dependent.

 

But that does not mean that I stopped caring about what happens to other people. I do not want to see a return to the levels of unemployment which existed here in the mid 1980s and am happy to contribute towards maintaining services. It's only money. And I would rather pay the money to govt for a service than pay a private company. Govt is much more accountable than private companies.

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He's just a typical wet socialist who feels the world owes him and the rest of his parasites a job.

Self employed libertarian you utterly selfish git. At a quiet personal level. Nobody owes me anything and I would hate to be dependent.

 

But that does not mean that I stopped caring about what happens to other people. I do not want to see a return to the levels of unemployment which existed here in the mid 1980s and am happy to contribute towards maintaining services. It's only money. And I would rather pay the money to govt for a service than pay a private company. Govt is much more accountable than private companies.

I too am a self employed libertarian. I believe in a private sector economy with government reduced to a small administrative function. We have different ideological viewpoints but I certainly do not advocate a state which has a divine right to tax the population to death to maintain it's own privileged position and survival. Edited by Lxxx
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IOM with it's funny constitutional status and tiny economy is a unique and delicate case Lxxx. We are not talking about China here. Or even Wilsonian Britain. The IOM does not have much.

 

You should look at the history of the IOM. People used to have to go and work on the farms away in the winter because there was not enough work. In the 1980s there were dole queues. Before you tear everything down think about the consequences - not just for people at a personal and family level but also, selfishly, at the price of your house and the value of your debt. Personally I do not care - I genuinely have no vested interest. Other than giving a ****.

 

The economy here is very fragile. Stop being so arrogant about what should be done.

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The economy here is very fragile. Stop being so arrogant about what should be done.

But would it not be a fair question to ask for the reasons behind that fragility? And should Govt. not have observed that fragility before they greatly contributed to it by committing it to unsustainable debts?

 

Short term hard medicine for a cure might be better for the patient than a long-term, lingering death....

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I remember the dole queues in the 1980's well. But in those days we had a very slimmed down public sector; a few scruffy clerks at the dole office on Westmoreland Road and the winter work scheme to work for your money.

 

Now we have a super state to administer that we can't afford and the people in the super state aren't really that bothered what they do as long as the payrises keep coming. Its no longer a mutual support system.

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But would it not be a fair question to ask for the reasons behind that fragility?

1. Tiny population = tiny economy.

2. Neither one thing nor the other constitutional status.

3. No way of controlling money supply apart from taxation and public wages.

4. Geography.

5. Lack of natural resources.

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IOM with it's funny constitutional status and tiny economy is a unique and delicate case Lxxx. We are not talking about China here. Or even Wilsonian Britain. The IOM does not have much.

 

You should look at the history of the IOM. People used to have to go and work on the farms away in the winter because there was not enough work. In the 1980s there were dole queues. Before you tear everything down think about the consequences - not just for people at a personal and family level but also, selfishly, at the price of your house and the value of your debt. Personally I do not care - I genuinely have no vested interest. Other than giving a ****.

 

The economy here is very fragile. Stop being so arrogant about what should be done.

Why is it always either/or with you? Why do we have to have a large state that we cannot afford or total economic Armageddon? There is a third way. Edited by Lxxx
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IOM with it's funny constitutional status and tiny economy is a unique and delicate case Lxxx. We are not talking about China here. Or even Wilsonian Britain. The IOM does not have much.

 

You should look at the history of the IOM. People used to have to go and work on the farms away in the winter because there was not enough work. In the 1980s there were dole queues. Before you tear everything down think about the consequences - not just for people at a personal and family level but also, selfishly, at the price of your house and the value of your debt. Personally I do not care - I genuinely have no vested interest. Other than giving a ****.

 

The economy here is very fragile. Stop being so arrogant about what should be done.

 

A return to a 1980s situation where we have dole queues is a lot better than the situation we'll end up in if we continue to go into debt to pay for a massive bureaucracy which we cannot afford.

 

You can go on and on until the cows come home about the "consequences" of not continuing to fund the unaffordable; however, the fact of the matter -- and this is indisputable -- is that we cannot afford to continue it.

Edited by Thomas Jefferson
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But would it not be a fair question to ask for the reasons behind that fragility?

1. Tiny population = tiny economy.

2. Neither one thing nor the other constitutional status.

3. No way of controlling money supply apart from taxation and public wages.

4. Geography.

5. Lack of natural resources.

5. Lack of natural resources

 

Rubbish - it's biggest asset is the most under-used. Agriculture...

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