Oxford Exploitation Trial

[Wilbert Hickmann]

Give me a gun and 7 bullets

[Lonan3]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-22438623

 

A link to the story is always advisable for those who may not have been following it.

[Lxxx]

Give me a gun and 7 bullets

 

You'd need a lot more than 7 bullets once you'd worked your way around the country looking at similar cases.

[Thomas Jefferson]

One should expect no better from "men" for whom the so-called prophet Muhammad is the ultimate role model:

Narrated Aisha:

 

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). <snip> Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 5:58:234

 

Narrated 'Aisha:

 

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 7:62:6

 

Narrated 'Ursa:

 

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 7:62:88

 

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:

 

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine.

 

Source: Sahih Muslim, 8:3309

 

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

 

When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine.

 

Source: Sunan Abu Dawood 41:4917

Sick. Sick. Sick.

[Lonan3]

Almost as sick as Jimmy Savile. Was he a Muslim?

[prism10]

One should expect no better from "men" for whom the so-called prophet Muhammad is the ultimate role model:

 

Narrated Aisha:

 

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). <snip> Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 5:58:234

 

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Narrated 'Aisha:

 

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 7:62:6

 

Narrated 'Ursa:

 

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

 

Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 7:62:88

 

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:

 

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine.

 

Source: Sahih Muslim, 8:3309

 

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

 

When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine.

 

Source: Sunan Abu Dawood 41:4917

 

Sick. Sick. Sick.

I believe you are looking at a time period in the past from a 21st century viewpoint. I shall provide some context of the time:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_wives

 

I have no idea what the age of consent was 1500 years ago or even now in Saudi Arabia. Interestingly Mahatma Gandhi was 13 when he was married, was he sick as well.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Almost as sick as Jimmy Savile. Was he a Muslim?

 

You're comparing apples (an individual abuser) with oranges (systemic abuse which has spread across the globe by an organised religion).

 

"With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg

[Thomas Jefferson]

I believe you are looking at a time period in the past from a 21st century viewpoint. I shall provide some context of the time:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_wives

 

I have no idea what the age of consent was 1500 years ago or even now in Saudi Arabia. Interestingly Mahatma Gandhi was 13 when he was married, was he sick as well.

 

Two young people marrying each other is totally different to an old man marrying a young girl.

 

Mahatma Gandhi and his wife were the SAME age. Muhammad was in his 50's when he married a 6 yr old.

[GhoulishDoolish]

"The youngest girl to be targeted was 11-years-old. The girls were mostly chosen because their unsettled or troubled lives made them easier to manipulate."

 

"One of the victims had complained to police twice but no one was charged.

A care home manager, who was later sacked, refused to pay her taxi fare when she returned after running away and the 14-year-old was driven back to Oxford where she was raped.

The court heard girls, who had been placed in care by Oxfordshire County Council for their own protection, would frequently abscond and were caught with older men by police."

 

Some quotes from the BBC article

 

These people are a disgrace but the system which put them in this position is far far more evil and despicable.

 

The kids were "in care" which shows how well kids in care are looked after or not as the case may be.

 

The religion of the perpetrators is pretty low down on the list of the contributory factors.

 

There are shitheads and there are despicable shitheads, there are some social workers and police who should be sent to jail for this as well.

[Lonan3]

I wouldn't argue that Islamic men have an ingrained belief about this - but it's worth pointing out that paedophilia exists absolutely everywhere. It can be found within every society and at every level.

A simple example would be the one in Belgium a few years ago (Google Marc Dutroux) which may well have resulted in a cover-up of some 'powerful' figures.

Then try Operation Hedgerow (650 offences against 150 boys) from 1989 - an English case involving "highly placed civil servants and well-known public figures", but police didn't have "the evidence or manpower to pursue them in court"; but concluded that "we have only scraped the surface of the paedophile menace in Britain".

Or check out a link to Charles Napier - a founder member of the Paedophile Information Exchange http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365

 

All of it is sickening - every bit as sickening as the cases involving Muslims. The problem is that a high-profile case in which the Muslim religion is constantly highlighted tends to make the average person think that paedophilia is mainly, or even entirely, a religious problem. It isn't! It's an infection that pervades our whole society like a cancerous growth and too many people with money and power are involved in it for it to be weeded out successfully.

[CrossRoss]

I wouldn't argue that Islamic men have an ingrained belief about this - but it's worth pointing out that paedophilia exists absolutely everywhere. It can be found within every society and at every level.

A simple example would be the one in Belgium a few years ago (Google Marc Dutroux) which may well have resulted in a cover-up of some 'powerful' figures.

Then try Operation Hedgerow (650 offences against 150 boys) from 1989 - an English case involving "highly placed civil servants and well-known public figures", but police didn't have "the evidence or manpower to pursue them in court"; but concluded that "we have only scraped the surface of the paedophile menace in Britain".

Or check out a link to Charles Napier - a founder member of the Paedophile Information Exchange http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365

 

All of it is sickening - every bit as sickening as the cases involving Muslims. The problem is that a high-profile case in which the Muslim religion is constantly highlighted tends to make the average person think that paedophilia is mainly, or even entirely, a religious problem. It isn't! It's an infection that pervades our whole society like a cancerous growth and too many people with money and power are involved in it.

 

liked this up to here, liked it a lot, in fact it is so intelligent and well informed I could have written it

 

 

 

to be weeded out successfully.

 

This part is simply not true. The numbers are actually quite small

 

They rely on deception and lies but if you can see through it, it is fairly simple and definitely do-able.

[Thomas Jefferson]

I wouldn't argue that Islamic men have an ingrained belief about this - but it's worth pointing out that paedophilia exists absolutely everywhere. It can be found within every society and at every level.

A simple example would be the one in Belgium a few years ago (Google Marc Dutroux) which may well have resulted in a cover-up of some 'powerful' figures.

Then try Operation Hedgerow (650 offences against 150 boys) from 1989 - an English case involving "highly placed civil servants and well-known public figures", but police didn't have "the evidence or manpower to pursue them in court"; but concluded that "we have only scraped the surface of the paedophile menace in Britain".

Or check out a link to Charles Napier - a founder member of the Paedophile Information Exchange http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365

 

All of it is sickening - every bit as sickening as the cases involving Muslims. The problem is that a high-profile case in which the Muslim religion is constantly highlighted tends to make the average person think that paedophilia is mainly, or even entirely, a religious problem. It isn't! It's an infection that pervades our whole society like a cancerous growth and too many people with money and power are involved in it for it to be weeded out successfully.

 

I wasn't implying that all Muslims are into that sort of thing. However, I think it's political correctness gone mad to simply ignore the fact that so many of these sex-grooming gangs seem to be Muslim. People like Saville are the exception here, but using young girls as property/currency and giving them as brides to dirty old men is the norm in places like Saudi Arabia.

[quilp]

In 1974, maybe '75, i remember 2 blokes, one who was definitely local, with a lad of around 14, handing out pro-leaflets for the 'Paedophile Information Exchange', on the prom.

These leaflets were obviously promoting paedophilia and also how they were lobbying for a change in the law to allow adults to legally have sex with kids. They were advertising for 'models' to have their photo taken pledging big money for the right candidate. Contact phone-numbers etc.

Thank fuck times have changed....

Does anyone else recall this...?

[Thomas Jefferson]

they were lobbying for a change in the law to allow adults to legally have sex with kids. They were advertising for 'models' to have their photo taken pledging big money for the right candidate. Contact phone-numbers etc.

 

Thank fuck times have changed....

Does anyone else recall this...?

 

I recall a South Park episode which went a bit like that.

[woolley]

 

I wouldn't argue that Islamic men have an ingrained belief about this - but it's worth pointing out that paedophilia exists absolutely everywhere. It can be found within every society and at every level.

A simple example would be the one in Belgium a few years ago (Google Marc Dutroux) which may well have resulted in a cover-up of some 'powerful' figures.

Then try Operation Hedgerow (650 offences against 150 boys) from 1989 - an English case involving "highly placed civil servants and well-known public figures", but police didn't have "the evidence or manpower to pursue them in court"; but concluded that "we have only scraped the surface of the paedophile menace in Britain".

Or check out a link to Charles Napier - a founder member of the Paedophile Information Exchange http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-scandal-charles-napier-could-1430365

 

All of it is sickening - every bit as sickening as the cases involving Muslims. The problem is that a high-profile case in which the Muslim religion is constantly highlighted tends to make the average person think that paedophilia is mainly, or even entirely, a religious problem. It isn't! It's an infection that pervades our whole society like a cancerous growth and too many people with money and power are involved in it for it to be weeded out successfully.

 

I wasn't implying that all Muslims are into that sort of thing. However, I think it's political correctness gone mad to simply ignore the fact that so many of these sex-grooming gangs seem to be Muslim. People like Saville are the exception here, but using young girls as property/currency and giving them as brides to dirty old men is the norm in places like Saudi Arabia.

It's just the usual agenda. When anything like this rears its ugly head, it is very noticeable that almost the first thing the BBC etc. multiculture apologists will utter is that it has been established that this kind of grooming occurs across all ethnicities. They wouldn't want us thinking otherwise and forming our own conclusions would they? That would never do. It must almost kill them to actually announce that these were muslims of Pakistani origin. They would much prefer to just say "Seven men from Oxford". Idiots.