thesultanofsheight Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) I can't see the point in a huge memorial gardens over the whole site either. The site is huge and as hboy said, what the Facebook group is looking to do has echos of Ground Zero about it which make me feel uncomfortable. Of course the existing memorial is pathetic and we do need to spend money on creating something that is fitting to allow all those affected to remember their loved ones properly - that should have been done donkey's years ago though. Let's also not forget that if the DTL had got its way this site would have been flogged off years ago as a leisure complex or more flats, so its also a bit hypocritical to look at some huge memorial now when if they'd have got a few million quid for it for flats they'd have taken it and not even bothered with a plaque. Edited July 30, 2013 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Manxie Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) mistake Edited July 30, 2013 by Old Manxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Manxie Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) To Irishone - La _Doce_Vita Hi there I have just put them up on youtube as slideshow - in an attempt to make it difficult for screen shots to be used for printing so please accept my apologies for some drop in quality. I have reservations in doing it but if The Examiner have no qualms yesterday in doing a spread I thought why not - If its considered insensitive I will delete Edited July 31, 2013 by Old Manxie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks for that - I didn't think it insensitive at all. For those who might worry about clicking on the link, it's a series of still photos from the same distant position (Central Prom?) showing the progression of the fire on the outside of the building - there's no victims shown or similar. That said it's the sheer speed of the spread of the flames that remains terrifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwasa Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 As Roger says, it is the speed with which the fire spreads that makes it so bad - from being a small fire on one corner, to having the whole building engulfed is a very short time span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsername Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 So so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollsterblue Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 To Irishone - La _Doce_Vita Hi there I have just put them up on youtube as slideshow - in an attempt to make it difficult for screen shots to be used for printing so please accept my apologies for some drop in quality. I have reservations in doing it but if The Examiner have no qualms yesterday in doing a spread I thought why not - If its considered insensitive I will delete Picture scanned from my Summerland guide showing the crazy golf course and yellow kiosk from where the fire originated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torry loon Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) To Irishone - La _Doce_Vita Hi there I have just put them up on youtube as slideshow - in an attempt to make it difficult for screen shots to be used for printing so please accept my apologies for some drop in quality. I have reservations in doing it but if The Examiner have no qualms yesterday in doing a spread I thought why not - If its considered insensitive I will delete I can't see anyone would have any objections to your video. You should have no reservations. I don't think you will unearth forgotten horrors or anything, as those memories remain whether or not there are reminders on youtube or wherever. Nicely put together video. Poignant of course. Edited to add: Old Manxie, I'm not trying to be clever, but youtube doesn't prevent any problems with screen shots anymore. But I am sure your well intended consideration is appreciated. Edited July 31, 2013 by Torry loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Manxie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Torry Loon - Roger Me4xico Thanks for your comments - Am just still touchy about that night and I wasn't near the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 To Irishone - La _Doce_Vita Hi there I have just put them up on youtube as slideshow - in an attempt to make it difficult for screen shots to be used for printing so please accept my apologies for some drop in quality. I have reservations in doing it but if The Examiner have no qualms yesterday in doing a spread I thought why not - If its considered insensitive I will delete Picture scanned from my Summerland guide showing the crazy golf course and yellow kiosk from where the fire originated Those photographs just show what a great facility this was at the time. We have never had anything like it and probably never will again. There was genuine optimism that this would be the answer to our loss of tourism to the package holiday and I feel it was justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollsterblue Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Suggests that a Summerland was planned for Sunderland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishone Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 To Irishone - La _Doce_Vita Hi there I have just put them up on youtube as slideshow - in an attempt to make it difficult for screen shots to be used for printing so please accept my apologies for some drop in quality. I have reservations in doing it but if The Examiner have no qualms yesterday in doing a spread I thought why not - If its considered insensitive I will delete Please don't delete them-I want to show them to my family.This is exactly what I have been looking for-people cope with things in different ways. I personally have a need for as much information as possible to help me come to terms with what happened to me.I felt a need to return to summerland and confront my fears-I was disappointed that the building had been demolished so I really appreciate seeing all these photos. We would have been injured just shortly after that first plume of smoke appeared as the fire spread at a phenomenal rate and we were making our way down the flying staircase after the original announcement.The hairs on the back of my neck stood up when I watched the slide-show. It has to be a miracle that hundreds more weren't killed or seriously injured.Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Old Manxie Thank you for publishing the photographs, they achieve what words cannot. As Roger and irishwasa say, the progression of the blaze from picture 2 (corner) to picture 3 (half of building) is almost incredible. How it could have been built from those materials beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Manxie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hi Irishone How awful for you to have been in there - what a nightmare. I am glad these photos might help in some way and am glad they have not caused offence - If you wish I would be happy to send you prints of them. @Bobbie its beyond believe how it was built in such a way and having been summoned to attend the tribunal I could not believe the tactics used to evade blame by the QCs for their clients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueblood Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The fact that nobody was ever held accountable shows those in authority at the time in a very poor light indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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