How Have Non Muslims Been Treated In Muslim Countries In The Past?

[Lonan3]

I won't bother quoting your latest example of bullshit. The fact is that we tend to judge people on whether or not they are likely to be telling the truth. You have shown yourself to be a braggart and a liar TJ, which means that no one can any longer take anything you post with any degree of seriousness whatsoever.

[kevster]

I don't understand the level of rabid anti-intellectual vitriol on this island, the contempt for anyone who has been to university;

Why should it bother you? You haven't been to university

[kevster]

I won't bother quoting your latest example of bullshit. The fact is that we tend to judge people on whether or not they are likely to be telling the truth. You have shown yourself to be a braggart and a liar TJ, which means that no one can any longer take anything you post with any degree of seriousness whatsoever.

As if we ever did....

[Thomas Jefferson]

 

I don't understand the level of rabid anti-intellectual vitriol on this island, the contempt for anyone who has been to university;

Why should it bother you? You haven't been to university

 

The same reason you should be bothered about the way minimum wage workers are treated.

[mojomonkey]

 

 

I already answered the question. I never went to university.

 

You didn't actually answer it but you have now by confirmation. Now I know that you lying when you previously stated on the forums and in a message to me that you went to university, or more precisely one of the World's top universities.

 

I can't understand the need to lie, or pretend, on here. Would you like to explain why you did?

 

I don't understand the level of rabid anti-intellectual vitriol on this island, the contempt for anyone who has been to university; and yet it exists side by side with a rabid hatred and contempt for the poor and the minimum wage workforce. What is behind this apparent paradox? It's just like John Lennon said: "they hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool". You can't win with these people.

 

This is probably the last one from me on this subject for the moment but once again TJ doesn't answer a simple question. I only want to try to understand why someone would openly lie on here, what purpose does it serve? A poster that does that just lacks creditability and makes it difficult for anyone to believe or support anything they subsequently say.

[Mr. Sausages]

Won't somebody think of the persecuted intellectuals of the island?

[Lonan3]

Won't somebody think of the persecuted intellectuals of the island?

Yeah... both of them.

[kevster]

 

 

I don't understand the level of rabid anti-intellectual vitriol on this island, the contempt for anyone who has been to university;

Why should it bother you? You haven't been to university

 

The same reason you should be bothered about the way minimum wage workers are treated.

And how do you know what I earn?

 

In fact, due to a couple of redundencies, I'm now earning about the same as I was 12 years ago.

[Thomas Jefferson]

I won't bother quoting your latest example of bullshit. The fact is that we tend to judge people on whether or not they are likely to be telling the truth. You have shown yourself to be a braggart and a liar TJ, which means that no one can any longer take anything you post with any degree of seriousness whatsoever.

 

Braggart? Okay, okay, I admit it --- they won't really let me anywhere near a spatula.

[prism10]

I've been to several muslim countries and as a non muslim myself I was most warmly received and felt very welcome.

I did go to a Greek island once that was once occupied by Muslims. The non Muslims had to pay a tax had restrictions when it came to certain trades and there was a curfew. Jews were exempt from the curfew and the restrictions on the trades, not sure about the tax, but our Greek guide was frothing at the mouth at this point because of the favourable treatment that Jews received.

 

I believe it was the same in Moorish Spain.

[Vorta]

As far as treatment of Muslims is concerned

 

Please rearrange these words into a phrase or saying.

 

Shite couldn't give I a.

[woolley]

I've been to several muslim countries and as a non muslim myself I was most warmly received and felt very welcome.

 

 

 

I've been to several muslim countries and as a non muslim myself I was most warmly received and felt very welcome.

 

Agreed. I've always found them very hospitable, both in the Muslim world, in the UK, and in the Isle of Man. The book cited in the opening post refers to the middle ages and I cherry picked the negative parts. Non-believers were a lot better off in Muslim countries than in Christian Europe.

 

 

 

I've been to several muslim countries and as a non muslim myself I was most warmly received and felt very welcome.

I did go to a Greek island once that was once occupied by Muslims. The non Muslims had to pay a tax had restrictions when it came to certain trades and there was a curfew. Jews were exempt from the curfew and the restrictions on the trades, not sure about the tax, but our Greek guide was frothing at the mouth at this point because of the favourable treatment that Jews received.

 

I believe it was the same in Moorish Spain.

 

Amazing that out of fifty odd comments only these appear to address the subject of the thread in any way which is testament to a great propensity for ignoring the elephant in the room. There are quite a lot of Christians in Egypt right now who feel less than welcome or secure. And they are Egyptians. Same in most Muslim countries. Whilst individuals of most creeds are amiable on a one to one basis, Islamic nations are not known for religious tolerance at state level and that is what counts. A more pertinent question for the future might be how non-muslims might be treated in countries that acquire muslim majorities in the coming century or so.

[Lonan3]

British tourists don't appear to be welcome in Afghanistan at the moment.

[quilp]

https://sites.google.com/site/islamicthreatsimplified/moderate-muslim

 

The threat of 'islamisation' is, i fear, too far out of the national psyche for people to believe it's a real danger to British culture or our Judeo-christian origins. Yet....

 

Hence the 'leftie' kow-towing, or dhimmitude that's going on which panders and placates the 'sensibilities' of muslims in the UK and Europe. On a one-to-one basis, the muslims i come into contact with are pleasant and respectful. I make a point of issuing the islamic greeting of 'Salamalakum'; this brings a look of surprise, occasionally. When i explain that i'm 'reaching out' and attempting to put them at ease, it's appreciated. Even more surprising when i explain that i'm a raving atheist who despises ALL religion, on a 'Dawkinsian' level.

 

Woolley has it right; the real concern will be when the demographic of muslims comes close to, or exceeds our native culture, whether that be secular-based or otherwise. The numbers of adherents and, lately, converts to islam is rising (strangely-enough, with females) and the indoctrination of the vulnerable in the prison's is increasing.

 

The link posted above is worth reading for anyone interested in this subject, the notion of 'moderate' muslims is put into perspective. There really is no such thing.

 

Multi-culturalism hasn't worked; ask Angela Merkel. Ask any European who has seen an increase in 'no-go', sharia-controlled areas in their locale. Dismay has turned to anger, the clash of cultures is very much a reality also for parts of the UK. Sharia courts are rife right across Britain; a system of law exists that is very different to our own and where our laws are deemed un-necessary, or rather, un-islamic.

 

So how far will British society go before the tolerant become intolerant? Already we have the burkha issue where much hand-ringing is going on over whether our culture can dictate to another, imported one, because that's basically the bone of contention. And the problems that arise in 'faith schools' where, in some, all the female kids have to cover their heads but the crucifix is banned! Those on the left, the socialists and liberals are having a tough time dealing with these issues.

 

If we are to retain our identity, our 'British-ness', everything that constitutes what we think we stand for, whether that be English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh (and Manx, i forgot), there is a need to centre on the future of our culture, our heritage, not the needs of another which in the most part, refuses to assimilate or respect the culture it immigrated into and appears to stand around looking for insult.

 

Let's not forget, islam is not a race, it's not something that has a definite ethnic identity, as with all religions, it matters not where you come from but what you believe. That's the dangerous bit- when an ideology purports to be a religion, it demands respect and carries a sense of entitlement far above that which it deserves.

[Thomas Jefferson]

You only have to walk down s street in London to see islamisation. Something else not reported in UK media is the growing violent attacks on Jews, overwhelming by Muslims.