Thomas Jefferson Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Which party do you think would do the best job of leading Britain for the rest of the decade? What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Britain? I voted for the Conservatives in the last general election but I would probably vote for Labour in 2015. I think they have some sound economic policies and seem to be returning to some of the traditional Labour values, at least in rhetoric. What I see as the greatest challenges facing Britain are deindustrialisation, internationalism, tax avoidance and the way these serve to undermine the standard of living of ordinary workers. It is difficult to preserve the standard of living of ordinary workers -- never mind raise it -- without the threat of corporations simply moving elsewhere or our businesses not being able to compete with the cheap labour of other parts of the world. Capital controls should be on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Would never vote for Labour because they always run out of other people's money. Mind you, since I don't have a vote I doubt it will worry them too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 With all the reforms, fixed parliaments, whatever there still isn't a none of the above box to enter your vote. I'm a socialist, never wavered from when I could first vote. Having been a voter, candidate, writer of reports on Manx Electoral process and returning officer I think I'd just write something funny and rude on the ballot paper to alleviate the boredom of the counting staff and cause discomfort to the candidates, to whom it would be shown when rejected But then I don't have a vote in UK elections TJ, unlike you, the 100% Manxman through and through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Would never vote for Labour because they always run out of other people's money. Mind you, since I don't have a vote I doubt it will worry them too much. So do the Tories. The only difference is what they spend other people's money on:- rich welfare recipients or poor welfare recipients. The Tories like to pretend that spending it on the rich will have a tricke down effect for the poor but anyone who believes that will believe anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's going to be an interesting result My betting is on a Lib/Lab coalition with Ed Miliband kicked out in favour of Yvette Cooper - tho' quite how they'll engineer that begs a lot of questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Another extremely well hung parliament I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Anybody who didn't go to pubic school and assume that they have to right to run the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Expect Boris in charge of the Tories if Cameron loses (or doesn't win) the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 With all the reforms, fixed parliaments, whatever there still isn't a none of the above box to enter your vote. I'm a socialist, never wavered from when I could first vote. Having been a voter, candidate, writer of reports on Manx Electoral process and returning officer I think I'd just write something funny and rude on the ballot paper to alleviate the boredom of the counting staff and cause discomfort to the candidates, to whom it would be shown when rejected But then I don't have a vote in UK elections TJ, unlike you, the 100% Manxman through and through There is already a "none of the above" option -- i.e. don't vote. In the Isle of Man, you should not only vote but you would be well advised to volunteer to be part of the vote counting if only to keep an eye on things and make sure nobody tries to rig the election. The last time I checked, Manx people are allowed to leave the island without forfeiting being Manx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I would probably vote for Labour in 2015. I think they have some sound economic policies and seem to be returning to some of the traditional Labour values, at least in rhetoric.Yep rhetoric. When Ed Miliband (or Ed Balls for that matter) say that they are socialists or invoke traditional Labour values they are IMO drawing on a sense of nostalgia. It's like dressing in retro fashions. They are drawing on an imagined history. Socialism was about the control of the economy and common ownership of the means of production. That is what Labour traditionally stood for. The Labour Party is no longer socialist and could never seriously attempt to reintroduce Clause IV. When people say that they are socialists today - they often really do not know what they mean. Perhaps they are kind to animals and try to be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 But none of the above, as an option, has the enticing prospect of the seat being left vacant if none of the above gets more votes than any of the human candidates. I agree TJ, always attend and do something with the ballot paper. I'd make voting compulsory, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 But none of the above, as an option, has the enticing prospect of the seat being left vacant if none of the above gets more votes than any of the human candidates. I agree TJ, always attend and do something with the ballot paper. I'd make voting compulsory, personally.What about people who reject not only the candidates but also the system itself? Why should anyone be forced to join in if they do not want to? Not me btw. I tend to vote for the candidate I like best irrespective of their politics. Well maybe. Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Labour, or maybe Scot Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No one for UKIP? Ah we don't have a disillusioned Tory working class demographic posting here then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thry're all public schoolboys so detached from genuine reality I find it hard to want to put a cross anywhere. It's like asking the oppressed which member of the oppressing class you'd like to represent you. It's hard to find a politician who has done a real days work in there life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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