Croatian Constitutional Court decides all kids have to be vaccinated. Children's right to health is above parent's right to make wrong decisions.

[ballaughbiker]

I am completely against any forced medical treatment even though I might fully agree that the reason for that treatment is sound and the treatment would in fact be beneficial.

 

This general misgiving is further heightened by my complete lack of confidence in parts of the island's health service (non-clinical) management. This lack is with, imo, very good reason and personal experience and hardly enhanced by the most sudden departure of a significant chunk of this team in a few days time.

 

Given my opinion of some of their decisions taken over the last couple of years, I don't think I'd now trust them to pick someone's kids up from school never mind decide on medical treatment they were going to provide for those children.

 

Edit: I trust their replacements will be considerable more capable but I'm not holding my breath.

[spook]

There is good biblical justification, indeed prohibition on vaccination based not only on intervening with the will of The Lord where a choice exists but also on prohibitions set out particularly in Leviticus . Nevertheless I hold up my hands to having our kids vaccinated when young. Not out of hypocrisy but if anything out of disobedience. What our kids do now they have become adults will be down to them. They took no role in reaching the decision that we made. As parents we are aware that what we did was wrong in the eyes of The Lord, but that's down to us to answer for and we no doubt will have to. Parents do tend to put the welfare of their kids before their own.

 

Mandatory vaccination raises a similar quandary for the secular.

 

If the parents of a child have real (and possibly well founded) concern that vaccination places their child at risk then they should be open to deciding if vaccination should take place and not have anyone tell them that they must. As the vast majority of parents would plumb for vaccination the probability is that an unvaccinated child will not encounter the diseases that vaccination provides a degree of immunity from. However when a disease is endemic within a region the argument for mandatory vaccination becomes more compelling.

 

Smallpox has been eradicated because of immunisation, as has poliomyelitis with the exception of Pakistan where people attempting mass vaccination against polio are frequently shot by Islamists, and Nigeria where once again it's the Islamists who oppose vaccination more out of hatred for the non-Islamic world than Koranic strict dictate.

 

It seems to me that the circumstances prevalent in any given region should be the deciding factor when it comes to mandatory vaccination.

[Chinahand]

There is good biblical justification, indeed prohibition on vaccination based not only on intervening with the will of The Lord where a choice exists but also on prohibitions set out particularly in Leviticus . .

 

Spook - what do you mean when you say "intervening with the will of The Lord". Isn't any medical procedure doing that? Are you a Christian Scientist - contradictory moniker if their ever was one, but that is what they call themselves.

 

 

Isn't investigating how to stop earthquakes and putting up tiger traps just as much "intervening with the will of The Lord" - seriously how is intervening to trying to stop bacteria or a virus different from stopping carnivores?

 

Or are plagues sent by God while tigers are our own responsibility?

[Truth Seeker]

Washington (AFP) - One in 68 children has autism, a 30 percent rise over the last estimate released in 2012, US health authorities said Thursday. The latest US data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the "proportion of children with autism and higher IQ (is) on the rise," said a CDC statement. Previously, as many as one in 88 US children were known to have autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, a developmental disorder that recent research suggests may originate in the womb. "This new estimate is roughly 30 percent higher than previous estimates reported in 2012 of 1 in 88 children (11.3 per 1,000 eight year olds) being identified with an autism spectrum disorder," said the CDC. The findings were based on diagnoses of eight-year-olds at 11 US sites in 2010. The prevalence of autism varied widely, from one in 175 children in Alabama to one in 45 children in New Jersey. The data continued to show that autism is five times more common in boys than in girls. In the United States, one in 42 boys is diagnosed with autism, compared to one in 189 girls. The reasons for the rise were unclear, but the CDC said the criteria used to diagnose autism spectrum disorder and the methods used to collect data have not changed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/one-68-kids-autism-171942567.html

[spook]

The will of Our Lord is beyond our capacity to understand. Is a medical intervention a blasphemy? or is it God inspired knowledge. Is it right to make use of knowledge that comes from evil such as that from the Nazi experimentation or the Japanese even worse experimentation?

 

Such a narrow path to tread during this part of our lives.

[HeliX]

There is good biblical justification,

 

Nothing worth reading ever starts like that.

[HeliX]

Washington (AFP) - One in 68 children has autism, a 30 percent rise over the last estimate released in 2012, US health authorities said Thursday. The latest US data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the "proportion of children with autism and higher IQ (is) on the rise," said a CDC statement. Previously, as many as one in 88 US children were known to have autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, a developmental disorder that recent research suggests may originate in the womb. "This new estimate is roughly 30 percent higher than previous estimates reported in 2012 of 1 in 88 children (11.3 per 1,000 eight year olds) being identified with an autism spectrum disorder," said the CDC. The findings were based on diagnoses of eight-year-olds at 11 US sites in 2010. The prevalence of autism varied widely, from one in 175 children in Alabama to one in 45 children in New Jersey. The data continued to show that autism is five times more common in boys than in girls. In the United States, one in 42 boys is diagnosed with autism, compared to one in 189 girls. The reasons for the rise were unclear, but the CDC said the criteria used to diagnose autism spectrum disorder and the methods used to collect data have not changed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/one-68-kids-autism-171942567.html

 

Why are you posting about autism in a vaccination thread when there's no link between autism and vaccinations?

[spook]

The incidence of autism may well have more to do with the changes in demography because of the increase in the number of the those races carrying the Mark of Cain (not the music group) in the overall population, and by the increase in immorality of various forms harming children while still in the womb that vaccination. While there is this scatter in the sample taken the conclusions will always be ambiguous where vaccination is concerned.

[Donald Trumps]

Are you a Nazi?

[HeliX]

The incidence of autism may well have more to do with the changes in demography because of the increase in the number of the those races carrying the Mark of Cain (not the music group) in the overall population, and by the increase in immorality of various forms harming children while still in the womb that vaccination. While there is this scatter in the sample taken the conclusions will always be ambiguous where vaccination is concerned.

[Truth Seeker]

 

 

 

Washington (AFP) - One in 68 children has autism, a 30 percent rise over the last estimate released in 2012, US health authorities said Thursday. The latest US data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the "proportion of children with autism and higher IQ (is) on the rise," said a CDC statement. Previously, as many as one in 88 US children were known to have autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, a developmental disorder that recent research suggests may originate in the womb. "This new estimate is roughly 30 percent higher than previous estimates reported in 2012 of 1 in 88 children (11.3 per 1,000 eight year olds) being identified with an autism spectrum disorder," said the CDC. The findings were based on diagnoses of eight-year-olds at 11 US sites in 2010. The prevalence of autism varied widely, from one in 175 children in Alabama to one in 45 children in New Jersey. The data continued to show that autism is five times more common in boys than in girls. In the United States, one in 42 boys is diagnosed with autism, compared to one in 189 girls. The reasons for the rise were unclear, but the CDC said the criteria used to diagnose autism spectrum disorder and the methods used to collect data have not changed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/one-68-kids-autism-171942567.html

Why are you posting about autism in a vaccination thread when there's no link between autism and vaccinations?

 

The Pharmaceutical companies won't allow a study in to the link between vaccinations and autism. There are no big lobby groups for autism.

[Lxxx]

Nope, no link between vaccinations and autism at all. Move along, there's nothing to see.

[HeliX]

 

 

 

 

Washington (AFP) - One in 68 children has autism, a 30 percent rise over the last estimate released in 2012, US health authorities said Thursday. The latest US data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the "proportion of children with autism and higher IQ (is) on the rise," said a CDC statement. Previously, as many as one in 88 US children were known to have autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, a developmental disorder that recent research suggests may originate in the womb. "This new estimate is roughly 30 percent higher than previous estimates reported in 2012 of 1 in 88 children (11.3 per 1,000 eight year olds) being identified with an autism spectrum disorder," said the CDC. The findings were based on diagnoses of eight-year-olds at 11 US sites in 2010. The prevalence of autism varied widely, from one in 175 children in Alabama to one in 45 children in New Jersey. The data continued to show that autism is five times more common in boys than in girls. In the United States, one in 42 boys is diagnosed with autism, compared to one in 189 girls. The reasons for the rise were unclear, but the CDC said the criteria used to diagnose autism spectrum disorder and the methods used to collect data have not changed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/one-68-kids-autism-171942567.html

Why are you posting about autism in a vaccination thread when there's no link between autism and vaccinations?

 

The Pharmaceutical companies won't allow a study in to the link between vaccinations and autism. There are no big lobby groups for autism.

 

There are plenty of studies on the matter. There are also plenty of studies about the causes of autism. I linked you one just yesterday, which showed clear evidence that autism is already in motion in the womb.

 

I'll link it again, because surely if you had seen it you wouldn't still believe what you do. http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2014-03-26-cortical-layer-disruption-and-autism.aspx

[Truth Seeker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Washington (AFP) - One in 68 children has autism, a 30 percent rise over the last estimate released in 2012, US health authorities said Thursday. The latest US data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that the "proportion of children with autism and higher IQ (is) on the rise," said a CDC statement. Previously, as many as one in 88 US children were known to have autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, a developmental disorder that recent research suggests may originate in the womb. "This new estimate is roughly 30 percent higher than previous estimates reported in 2012 of 1 in 88 children (11.3 per 1,000 eight year olds) being identified with an autism spectrum disorder," said the CDC. The findings were based on diagnoses of eight-year-olds at 11 US sites in 2010. The prevalence of autism varied widely, from one in 175 children in Alabama to one in 45 children in New Jersey. The data continued to show that autism is five times more common in boys than in girls. In the United States, one in 42 boys is diagnosed with autism, compared to one in 189 girls. The reasons for the rise were unclear, but the CDC said the criteria used to diagnose autism spectrum disorder and the methods used to collect data have not changed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/one-68-kids-autism-171942567.html

Why are you posting about autism in a vaccination thread when there's no link between autism and vaccinations?

The Pharmaceutical companies won't allow a study in to the link between vaccinations and autism. There are no big lobby groups for autism.

There are plenty of studies on the matter. There are also plenty of studies about the causes of autism. I linked you one just yesterday, which showed clear evidence that autism is already in motion in the womb.

 

I'll link it again, because surely if you had seen it you wouldn't still believe what you do. http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2014-03-26-cortical-layer-disruption-and-autism.aspx

But the study did not say if the mothers of these children had taken any vaccines or not, which would be relevant.

[HeliX]

But the study did not say that the mothers of these children had not taken any vaccines or not, which would be relevant.

 

 

Oh dear.

 

Why keep moving the goalposts so that you can continue to believe something you have no evidence for?