Thomas Jefferson Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9JOLC7x-zQ Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 You're absolutely correct. Everyone on the planet aspires to be universally despised and envies the freedoms only a police state can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 Land of the free - 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prison population. 30,000+ shootings every year. A cop on every corner to beat the crap out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 ...adds Paranoid Delusion to the informal, finger-tick list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulgarian Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 ...adds Paranoid Delusion to the informal, finger-tick list... There's nothing particularly delusional about what TJ said. Those are facts (except for the last bit). The USA puts forth a poisonous and insidious nationalist ideology and neo-colonialist world view. It has a militarised police force, and an absolutely scandalous level of incarceration. Children swear allegiance to the flag and state every day at school. If we saw this happening in another country we would scream 'indoctrination'. Christian fundamentalism is rife. Alongside it goes ignorance. These indoctrinated, undereducated, criminalised classes are running about with loaded guns stuffed in their trousers. But we're all so used to America, on the TV, in the movies, that it seems perfectly normal. It's not. The USA is a fucked up, decaying, civilisation. I wouldn't live there for a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I wouldn't trade it because I am very fond of the Island, Britain and Europe in general. But there is a huge amount I like about the USA, music, literature and people. There's another USA that isn't neo-con, gun toting or illiberal. Try listening to NPR, or podcasts like "The Moth"' "This American Life" or "News from Night a Vale" for a different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I wouldn't trade it because I am very fond of the Island, Britain and Europe in general. But there is a huge amount I like about the USA, music, literature and people. There's another USA that isn't neo-con, gun toting or illiberal. Try listening to NPR, or podcasts like "The Moth"' "This American Life" or "News from Night a Vale" for a different view. + 1 And of course many of the technological achievements we take for granted to make our soft lives easier. America is far from perfect but it's a hell of a lot better than most places. Much of the downer that Europeans have on America is jealousy and inverted snobbery. America also has a more realistic view of the threats faced by the West than does the EU for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 The USA West is a fucked up, decaying, civilisation. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 You don't like America??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The US military 'a shining beacon for the rest of the world'? i don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I nation that pronounces Barack as buuurrack just isn't to be trusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 As Bugs Bunny once said: "Eee, What's up Mr Ayrab?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 'Murica number one!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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