Roger Mexico Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris Thomas said: Whose vanity? All the information about sign-off, cost, reason and use is provided in written answers in Hansard by the way. Actually details about the gate were in an Oral Question from Haywood that you answer in Keys on 14 February: The jetty is designated on the Island’s Port Security Plan as a temporary restricted area due to the ability if required to land cruise liner passengers by tender. The requirement to have the ability to close off the jetty when required comes under the International Ship and Port Facility Security Code, Port Security Regulations 2007 as audited for best practice by the UK Department of Transport Security Division. The gates will be closed when cruise ship tenders are operating to and from the jetty. The costs of fabrication and installation of the security gates was just over £3,000 for materials and galvanising, across. Fabrication and installation was done by the DoI’s in-house blacksmiths. She then asked: how many cruise ships have actually used Port Erin to disembark visitors in the last five years; and does he consider this is value for money? Is the cost justified, given that the entrance is so small that a member of staff could stand at the top of the stairs without actually needing fencing to control it? Chris Thomas then flannelled away at some length without addressing the last point or indeed the usage it actually got. For the latter Haywood then put in a Written Question (which somehow became identical twins) and got the reply: According to the Department's records no cruise ships have moored in Port Erin during the last five years, with no visitors disembarking as a result. Plaintively adding: It is worth noting that prior to this in 2017, due to bad weather, the Star Pride was diverted from Douglas to Port Erin and that 95 passengers took a shore excursion. There is potential for Port Erin to be utilised in the future for such diversions from any other port on the Isle of Man. Having a gate in place makes any last minute changes more practical, it looks more professional, and it demonstrates that the Isle of Man takes its international obligations seriously. So once upon a time some people landed by accident. As Haywood also pointed out rather than looking 'professional' it just looks unfriendly to those users that do use the harbour regularly and takes up space that used to be used for other purposes by those users. And something being 'best practice' doesn't mean that it has to be done. Chris did actually admit that the only practical use the gates got was as an occasional clothes drying device. Of course if that £3,000 and blacksmithing had been used to fix some other barriers at the Airport, it might have been worth it. I appreciate that Chris inherited all this and that Harbours is comparatively low down in the DoI Shitstorm League, but I can't help feeling that if half the ingenuity that goes into defending stupid decisions was spent not making them in the first place, things might improve. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primator Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: Cristiano Ronaldo Museum???!!!! FFS. It’s a dive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooly Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 20 hours ago, 2112 said: If you have been to Madeira, which is very busy with multiple cruise ships berthed in the port and bay, there are goods which people want to buy to take home. In years gone by embroidery was popular along with wicker ware. Madeira wine people take home. I went last year, and the Cristiano Ronaldo Museum was busy, both with tourists and cruise ship passengers. How can you tell the difference between tourists and cruise ship passengers? Do the cruise passengers wear a boat hat to be easily identified? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Chris Thomas said: The gate is open. Until the summer. The problem with you politicians is that you think the people are as thick as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hooly said: How can you tell the difference between tourists and cruise ship passengers? Do the cruise passengers wear a boat hat to be easily identified? Simple. Tourists either have leathers or hiking gear and are a bit smelly. Cruise passengers have Calvin Cline polos and deck shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 And the elderly women are wearing their husband's watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Hooly said: How can you tell the difference between tourists and cruise ship passengers? Do the cruise passengers wear a boat hat to be easily identified? Easy. The cruise ship visitors are the corpses being wheeled around on sack trucks. A bit like the deceased Morecambe bingo players, propped up in bus shelters, beloved of Colin Crompton on Wheeltappers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, John Wright said: Easy. The cruise ship visitors are the corpses being wheeled around on sack trucks. A bit like the deceased Morecambe bingo players, propped up in bus shelters, beloved of Colin Crompton on Wheeltappers. "Give order!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hooly said: How can you tell the difference between tourists and cruise ship passengers? Do the cruise passengers wear a boat hat to be easily identified? Genuinely, they all sometimes wear the same gimpy brightly coloured coats Edited March 25, 2023 by 0bserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 That looks climate friendly… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 1:44 PM, Andy Onchan said: Cristiano Ronaldo Museum???!!!! FFS. He probably paid for it himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, Amadeus said: That looks climate friendly… 2000 visitors for the island today. Is it worth it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Roxanne said: 2000 visitors for the island today. Is it worth it? For the climate, no. If we were serious about out climate change obligations then we would be refusing these kind of ships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, 0bserver said: For the climate, no. If we were serious about out climate change obligations then we would be refusing these kind of ships. You’re right. This is why they’ve been banned from visiting several European cities. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Fuck the environment, more important things than that nonsense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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