Thomas Jefferson Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The Worst Trolls On The Internet Are The Government Trolls by Michael Snyder | New American | July 16, 2014 We have all run into them. All over the Internet, there are horrible trolls that seem to delight in making life miserable for other people. But the worst trolls of all are the government trolls. And thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have some startling new evidence of what really goes on behind the scenes. According to newly revealed documents, British spy agency GCHQ is manipulating online discussions, infiltrating the computers of specific targets, purposely destroying reputations, altering the results of online polls, and using Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for propaganda and espionage purposes. If people don’t start getting outraged about this now, the governments of the western world are going to see it as a green light to do even more. Eventually, it might get so bad that we won’t be able to trust much of anything that we see on the Internet. There is a lot about the Internet that is really awful, but one great thing about it is the fact that it has allowed average individuals to communicate on a mass scale unlike ever before. As the general population has become aware of how powerful of a tool the Internet can be, the elite have become extremely alarmed. Unlike so many other things in our society, it has not been something that they have been able to easily control. But the elite have been starting to catch up to all of this new technology and are learning how to use it for their own purposes. Thanks to Snowden, we now have a list of specific tools that GCHQ has been using to manipulate the Internet. Read the rest at: http://www.infowars.com/the-worst-trolls-on-the-internet-are-the-government-trolls/ Hang on a minute. The British Government engage in this sort of thing. The IOM Government, with its management being almost entirely sourced from the British Government, usually copies the British Government. Would it be reasonable to suppose the IOM Government engage in this? I think the vitriol I get on here whenever I criticise the Government answers that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The Worst Trolls On The Internet Are The Government Trolls by Michael Snyder | New American | July 16, 2014 We have all run into them. All over the Internet, there are horrible trolls that seem to delight in making life miserable for other people. But the worst trolls of all are the government trolls. And thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have some startling new evidence of what really goes on behind the scenes. According to newly revealed documents, British spy agency GCHQ is manipulating online discussions, infiltrating the computers of specific targets, purposely destroying reputations, altering the results of online polls, and using Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for propaganda and espionage purposes. If people don’t start getting outraged about this now, the governments of the western world are going to see it as a green light to do even more. Eventually, it might get so bad that we won’t be able to trust much of anything that we see on the Internet. There is a lot about the Internet that is really awful, but one great thing about it is the fact that it has allowed average individuals to communicate on a mass scale unlike ever before. As the general population has become aware of how powerful of a tool the Internet can be, the elite have become extremely alarmed. Unlike so many other things in our society, it has not been something that they have been able to easily control. But the elite have been starting to catch up to all of this new technology and are learning how to use it for their own purposes. Thanks to Snowden, we now have a list of specific tools that GCHQ has been using to manipulate the Internet. Read the rest at: http://www.infowars.com/the-worst-trolls-on-the-internet-are-the-government-trolls/ Hang on a minute. The British Government engage in this sort of thing. The IOM Government, with its management being almost entirely sourced from the British Government, usually copies the British Government. Would it be reasonable to suppose the IOM Government engage in this? I think the vitriol I get on here whenever I criticise the Government answers that question. Any criticism, or counter opinion (which it really is), is probably more based on the size of the IoM and its Government and then any need or purpose to them engaging in this sort of activity. The Isle of Man is a beautiful place but despite what Alan Bell et al say it has the presence of a parish council on the World stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Any criticism, or counter opinion (which it really is), is probably more based on the size of the IoM and its Government and then any need or purpose to them engaging in this sort of activity. "Counter opinion"? You mean 100% government propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The IoM government doesn't have to pay trolls to sway online discussions, it employs thousands of very well paid idiots who will argue it's case for them as they know it's their only salvation of a job other than flipping burgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 "Counter opinion"? You mean 100% government propaganda. Do you mean everything that is counter to your own opinion is government propaganda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 "Counter opinion"? You mean 100% government propaganda. Do you mean everything that is counter to your own opinion is government propaganda? Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 "Counter opinion"? You mean 100% government propaganda. Do you mean everything that is counter to your own opinion is government propaganda? No, it's just that my opinion on all things government-related is counter to government propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 You need to be our representative in THE BIG DEBATE then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I assume that the source is reliable and has been thoroughly checked to ensure that this is not some form of counter-espionage or propaganda from an anti-western government/society? A previous poster (CrossRoss, who has been very quiet recently) used to go on about Government Shills and posted several rather dubious links. I still have my doubts over whether the Government has enough resources to infiltrate the internet so thoroughly that they can monitor and engage in such activities on all the available outlets. Add to that the Government is notoriously bad at covering things up effectively and it makes you wonder about whether it would be possible. I am not saying that it is impossible just that I find it rather unlikely that this is happening beyond a small selective target group. Then relying on others to filter messages out. If you take this view though you really cannot believe anything on the internet as validating the source becomes virtually impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 It amazes me how people can reconcile being told not to believe what they're told on the internet BY PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET and they don't see the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkin Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ask yourself this: Would the government propaganda machine bother to rack up thousands of unrelated posts under a multitude of handles just so they can counter your muddled arguments? You are way in the rabbit hole amigo. Need to ease yourself out slowly so your head doesn't fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 It amazes me how people can reconcile being told not to believe what they're told on the internet BY PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET and they don't see the issue. I don't believe that you're even the slightest bit amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 It amazes me how people can reconcile being told not to believe what they're told on the internet BY PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET and they don't see the issue. The issue is not the medium of the disinformation, but the fact of the disinformation in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ask yourself this: Would the government propaganda machine bother to rack up thousands of unrelated posts under a multitude of handles just so they can counter your muddled arguments? You are way in the rabbit hole amigo. Need to ease yourself out slowly so your head doesn't fall off. Of course the government wouldn't do that. Did I say they would? No, amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 I assume that the source is reliable and has been thoroughly checked to ensure that this is not some form of counter-espionage or propaganda from an anti-western government/society? A previous poster (CrossRoss, who has been very quiet recently) used to go on about Government Shills and posted several rather dubious links. I still have my doubts over whether the Government has enough resources to infiltrate the internet so thoroughly that they can monitor and engage in such activities on all the available outlets. Add to that the Government is notoriously bad at covering things up effectively and it makes you wonder about whether it would be possible. I am not saying that it is impossible just that I find it rather unlikely that this is happening beyond a small selective target group. Then relying on others to filter messages out. If you take this view though you really cannot believe anything on the internet as validating the source becomes virtually impossible. What? Where are you getting the bizarre conclusion that "you really cannot believe anything on the internet"? That is not what is being said here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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