Israel vs. the rest of the world?

[Passing Time]

1 hour ago, TheTeapot said:

 

Got to admit it was good 

[Passing Time]

20 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

 

Grim…

[hoopsaa]

28 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Setting off hundreds of explosives when you have no clue where any of them are is not minimising the risk of civilians getting hurt.

Comparatively,  yes.

[HeliX]

10 minutes ago, hoopsaa said:

Comparatively,  yes.

That depends what you're comparing it to.

[Passing Time]

46 minutes ago, HeliX said:

Setting off hundreds of explosives when you have no clue where any of them are is not minimising the risk of civilians getting hurt.

As nearly all of these are with Hezbollah they’re targeting the right people…

[HeliX]

15 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

As nearly all of these are with Hezbollah they’re targeting the right people…

And anyone lucky enough to be standing near them.

[Non-Believer]

Reports tonight that an Iranian ambassador was one of those injured by an exploding pager.

Now what would an Iranian ambassador be doing carrying a Hizbollah pager around....?

[thommo2010]

2 hours ago, HeliX said:

And anyone lucky enough to be standing near them.

From the footage I've seen they were in crowded areas like supermarkets and didn't take anyone with them so seemed safe enough. Better than firing missiles into areas

[TheTeapot]

There are other wider implications about this. Now everyone knows it can be done. Watch that explosive tech get reverse engineered from the inevitable device that didn't explode. Air travel might be about to get even more shit.

[HeliX]

3 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

From the footage I've seen they were in crowded areas like supermarkets and didn't take anyone with them so seemed safe enough. Better than firing missiles into areas

In the first attack 12 people were killed including 2 children. 2,800 were injured.

In the second 20 were killed and 450 wounded.

But because you saw a couple of videos you deemed it "safe enough".

[Shake me up Judy]

There you go with the emotional rhetoric again Helix. Using 'children' in nearly every post to leverage your argument.

[HeliX]

2 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said:

There you go with the emotional rhetoric again Helix. Using 'children' in nearly every post to leverage your argument.

Because they killed children. If you don't want that pointing out perhaps you, too, should be against them killing children.

[P.K.]

8 hours ago, HeliX said:

In the first attack 12 people were killed including 2 children. 2,800 were injured.

In the second 20 were killed and 450 wounded.

But because you saw a couple of videos you deemed it "safe enough".

Hezbollah stated aim:

The elimination of the State of Israel has always been one of Hezbollah's primary goals. Their manifesto states that "our struggle will end only when Israel is obliterated".

The Israelis are simply, and very cleverly and legally, taking the fight to the enemy.

Modern warfare is about winning with the least casualties to your own side. So ideally you want to degrade your enemy's kit and personnel from a position of complete safety.

This precisely targeted strike meets the criteria.

Incidentally pagers are clever but I suspect the October assault was organised specifically with zero SigInt. After all, Gaza is small enough to be able to do without and that's how Osama bin Laden remained hidden for so long.

[HeliX]

1 minute ago, P.K. said:

Hezbollah stated aim:

The elimination of the State of Israel has always been one of Hezbollah's primary goals. Their manifesto states that "our struggle will end only when Israel is obliterated".

The Israelis are simply, and very cleverly and legally, taking the fight to the enemy.

Modern warfare is about winning with the least casualties to your own side. So ideally you want to degrade your enemy's kit and personnel from a position of complete safety.

This precisely targeted strike meets the criteria.

Incidentally pagers are clever but I suspect the October assault was organised specifically with zero SigInt. After all, Gaza is small enough to be able to do without and that's how Osama bin Laden remained hidden for so long.

No shit Hezbollah are evil, that doesn't give anyone the right to set off hundreds of explosives that they don't know the locations of. This isn't complicated.

[P.K.]

9 minutes ago, HeliX said:

No shit Hezbollah are evil, that doesn't give anyone the right to set off hundreds of explosives that they don't know the locations of. This isn't complicated.

So you're saying that the Israelis had no idea where the pagers were specifically located...?

No shit Sherlock...

Wrong. They do have the right to take the fight to the enemy using whatever means they chose.

The moral of the story is: Don't fire lethal rockets indiscriminately at Israeli citizens!

It's not rocket science   It's not a clever thing to do...