HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Just now, The Phantom said: I've made it clear on here I'm no fan of Israelis either. But there are certain unalienable truths in this world. One of them is you don't fuck with Israel. It's not fair, I know. If Ham & Hez didn't instigate the most recent attacks, there wouldn't be 40k oopsie war casualties. No, there'd just still be the ongoing siege and occupation of their lands. The Hamas and Hezbollah attacks were utterly inevitable given the conditions Israel has deliberately created. And they will continue to be inevitable until those conditions change. Allowing Israel to treat Gaza as a brutal open air prison for 20 years is a failing of the west, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 23 minutes ago, P.K. said: Does not make sense. These 8,000 cross border attacks as reported by Al Jazeera were they met by the Lebanese military? They're rocket attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecklessAbandon Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 23 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Could say that minus the land grab for either side. Terrorist attacks on fesitival goers, hostage taking and random missile attacks on civilians are all ok if the victims are Jewish? Not what I said, but nice whataboutism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Interesting that a military power much less sophisticated than Israel (Iran) can accurately target a military site in a civilian area without causing any civilian casualties. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cg4qx62kkxxt?post=asset%3A978aa6cd-1a1e-4728-a348-34dac820e0a5#post But Israel can't do the same because reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 31 minutes ago, HeliX said: Interesting that a military power much less sophisticated than Israel (Iran) can accurately target a military site in a civilian area without causing any civilian casualties. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cg4qx62kkxxt?post=asset%3A978aa6cd-1a1e-4728-a348-34dac820e0a5#post But Israel can't do the same because reasons. You seriously believe that? It's because the Iranian missiles are inaccurate. Iron dome is highly effective and all the Israeli's were in bomb shelters. I think Iran are imminently going to discover what happens when you play with fire. Maybe they should stop training up and exporting terrorists around the Middle East? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 27 minutes ago, The Phantom said: You seriously believe that? It's because the Iranian missiles are inaccurate. Iron dome is highly effective and all the Israeli's were in bomb shelters. I think Iran are imminently going to discover what happens when you play with fire. Maybe they should stop training up and exporting terrorists around the Middle East? Have you seen the videos of them all landing? The Iron dome didn't seem to do much of anything for that barrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: Have you seen the videos of them all landing? The Iron dome didn't seem to do much of anything for that barrage. Everyone, except you of course, knows "Iron Dome" can be overwhelmed. Although I'm not sure at this point if Iron Dome failed because it's designed to deal with the nightly barrage of missiles from places like Gaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 9 minutes ago, P.K. said: Everyone, except you of course, knows "Iron Dome" can be overwhelmed. Although I'm not sure at this point if Iron Dome failed because it's designed to deal with the nightly barrage of missiles from places like Gaza. They can only load up so many anti missile missiles. Overwhelmed is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Phantom said: They can only load up so many anti missile missiles. Overwhelmed is correct. This is what I meant: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20385306 @HeliX Note : The system was developed after the 2006 "Summer War" between Israel and Hezbollah. The Lebanon-based armed group fired nearly 4,000 rockets into Israel, causing huge damage and killing dozens of citizens. Edited October 2 by P.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 37 minutes ago, P.K. said: Everyone, except you of course, knows "Iron Dome" can be overwhelmed. Although I'm not sure at this point if Iron Dome failed because it's designed to deal with the nightly barrage of missiles from places like Gaza. Obviously I know that, I was replying to a comment that insisted the Iron Dome was the reason for the lack of civilian casualties. It wasn't. Most of the ordnance landed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 28 minutes ago, HeliX said: Obviously I know that, I was replying to a comment that insisted the Iron Dome was the reason for the lack of civilian casualties. It wasn't. Most of the ordnance landed. The Israelis only intercept missiles headed for built up areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 15 minutes ago, P.K. said: The Israelis only intercept missiles headed for built up areas. Mossad HQ was hit in Tel-Aviv. Iran targeted military sites, and hit them without killing thousands of civilians. Shame Israel won't do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeliX said: Obviously I know that, I was replying to a comment that insisted the Iron Dome was the reason for the lack of civilian casualties. It wasn't. Most of the ordnance landed. In malls, schools and residential areas. Mossad HQ was targeted along with two airforce bases but they all landed 'nearby and no direct hits that I have seen. Edited October 2 by The Phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 29 minutes ago, The Phantom said: In malls, schools and residential areas. Mossad HQ was targeted along with two airforce bases but they all landed 'nearby and no direct hits that I have seen. That looks rather like a road not a school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 hours ago, HeliX said: Mossad HQ was hit in Tel-Aviv. Iran targeted military sites, and hit them without killing thousands of civilians. Shame Israel won't do the same. None of the targets were deliberately underground in populated areas - that's why... Clutching at straws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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