Fossils Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 https://uk.news.yahoo.com/illegal-immigrants-caught-trying-leave-uk-072348584.html#wMohvgf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They've probably seen the writing on the wall Russia is determined to force Britain out of the EU and forge integration with continental Europe, which is the main market for it's natural resources The Tories & UKIP with their 'lets leave the EU' policies are falling into Putin's hands, and that's why his mates give the Tory Party embarrassing amounts of cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 @Fossils Thanks, I now have the guitar solo from Hotel California looping around in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They've probably seen the writing on the wall Russia is determined to force Britain out of the EU and forge integration with continental Europe, which is the main market for it's natural resources The Tories & UKIP with their 'lets leave the EU' policies are falling into Putin's hands, and that's why his mates give the Tory Party embarrassing amounts of cash No agenda other than that I'm genuinely curious to know more ... can you explain in a bit more detail, or give a reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They've probably seen the writing on the wall Russia is determined to force Britain out of the EU and forge integration with continental Europe, which is the main market for it's natural resources The Tories & UKIP with their 'lets leave the EU' policies are falling into Putin's hands, and that's why his mates give the Tory Party embarrassing amounts of cash No agenda other than that I'm genuinely curious to know more ... can you explain in a bit more detail, or give a reference? Even if it is guesswork it's reasonable to assume. Russia's old enemies have always been the US/UK, whether what is happening is by design or by circumstance either way the Russian bear would most approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Think this is mostly my own view of what's going on - can't find specific references to it, but it makes sense to me as an objective for the Russians I'd be in favour of Russia joining the EU anyway so really it's down to whose terms this happens on - those of the West or those of Russia China's expansion of it's railway systems to Europe will probably push Russia closer to the EU n the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 @ Donald. It's a conspiracy theory too far for me, but actually it might be a good hedge against Islamification if the Russians were stirring the pot. Trouble is though, the bigger you get, the more likely becomes internal collapse, as with all empires. As a basis for giving the EU overlords and the liberal elite something to think about, I'm mischievously in favour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Ah but should the Tories take England out of the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The EU is just designed to suppress Europe and let Germany flourish. Look at the euro, the only country that is really doing well is Germany the rest of Europe has flat lined. At least when the countries had their own currency they could manoeuvre out of recession now they have to take massive pay outs to enslave the nation into debt it can never pay back. And where does the money come from? that's right Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markduc Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 3rd time lucky for Germany ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Germans are savers, didn't fall for the property bubble bullshit, and manufacture things and export. The rest of Europe are pretty much net importers of other people's goods, mortgaged to the hilt, spendthrift, and expect a lot in return for little effort. That's the reality of the Euro, along with a group of poor economies that lied their way in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 There'll be a lot of cheaper Dutch veg on the market now that the Russkies have banned it for a year Will the prices go down at Robinsons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Germans are savers, didn't fall for the property bubble bullshit, and manufacture things and export. The rest of Europe are pretty much net importers of other people's goods, mortgaged to the hilt, spendthrift, and expect a lot in return for little effort. That's the reality of the Euro, along with a group of poor economies that lied their way in. Some of the world's weakest economies have positive balance of trade - i.e. a trade surplus. Poor and strong national economies sharing the same currency is no different from poor and strong regional economies sharing the same currency - e.g. Liverpool and London. You need to make a distinction between effort and productivity. According to this item at The Atlantic, Greece is one of the hardest working advanced countries in the world. Meanwhile according to this piece at The Telegraph, UK productivity is dismal. The success of the German economy is very much connected to productivity - a legacy of the West German economy which was funded by the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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