Vulgarian Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well TJ, we are getting closer to a reasoned conversation. Hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fichdich Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Just a thought! To those in agreement and approval of the Israeli "ancestral Jewish land" grab. Would you also approve if modern Germany initiated attempts to recover all the former German speaking ancestral Homeland east of the Oder/Neisse line?? In other words, the Province of Posen, West & East Prussia (including Danzig of course), Pomerania, East Brandenburg, and Lower Silesia? 10 million civilians ethincally cleansed from these territories, 2.5 million dying as a result. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ^ whataboutism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fichdich Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 ^ whataboutism silly person! Have the IQ to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I already have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fichdich Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Blather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Blather. In your post, in this whole thread, you are postulating a simplistic and rhetorical equivalence between Israel with Nazi Germany. You are calling Israel fascist. Despite the clumsy historical irony, boiled down this is no different from calling anyone else f a s … cist (man). It's posturing. Like Rik from the Young Ones or 1980s students wearing the keffiyeh and talking nonsense about causes they knew nothing about. But the comparison does not work. Because Jews were an integral part of German life and of European culture. They did not seek to destroy Germany. And Europe was not threatening to destroy Germany. The Germans did not take Poland or the Netherlands because those countries were threatening life in Berlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Just a thought! To those in agreement and approval of the Israeli "ancestral Jewish land" grab. Would you also approve if modern Germany initiated attempts to recover all the former German speaking ancestral Homeland east of the Oder/Neisse line?? In other words, the Province of Posen, West & East Prussia (including Danzig of course), Pomerania, East Brandenburg, and Lower Silesia? 10 million civilians ethincally cleansed from these territories, 2.5 million dying as a result. Just a thought. Why would Germany recovering German-speaking territories result in ethnic cleansing and 2.5 million dead? Your example is asinine and irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The simple point of this thread is that Israel building permanent settlements in the West Bank and creating a defacto border through the various peace walls are not conducive to a peace settlement. They are illegal, increase resentment and anger, are only being pursued because a very right wing and religious faction in Israeli politics demands a right to rule a historic Israel very different from the reality of populations living in these areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fichdich Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Blather.In your post, in this whole thread, you are postulating a simplistic and rhetorical equivalence between Israel with Nazi Germany. You are calling Israel fascist. Despite the clumsy historical irony, boiled down this is no different from calling anyone else f a s cist (man).It's posturing. Like Rik from the Young Ones or 1980s students wearing the keffiyeh and talking nonsense about causes they knew nothing about.But the comparison does not work. Because Jews were an integral part of German life and of European culture. They did not seek to destroy Germany. And Europe was not threatening to destroy Germany. The Germans did not take Poland or the Netherlands because those countries were threatening life in Berlin."They did not seek to destroy Germany" http://guardian.150m.com/jews/jews-declare-war.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fichdich Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Just a thought! To those in agreement and approval of the Israeli "ancestral Jewish land" grab. Would you also approve if modern Germany initiated attempts to recover all the former German speaking ancestral Homeland east of the Oder/Neisse line?? In other words, the Province of Posen, West & East Prussia (including Danzig of course), Pomerania, East Brandenburg, and Lower Silesia? 10 million civilians ethincally cleansed from these territories, 2.5 million dying as a result. Just a thought. Why would Germany recovering German-speaking territories result in ethnic cleansing and 2.5 million dead? Your example is asinine and irrelevant.you have misunderstood the post. During the expulsion of approx. 10-12 million Germans from the territories I quoted (between 1944 to 1950) an estimated 2.5 million perished. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%9350) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 you have misunderstood the post. During the expulsion of approx. 10-12 million Germans from the territories I quoted (between 1944 to 1950) an estimated 2.5 million perished. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%9350) I still don't see the comparison. I really can't say I find much wrong with the principle of Germany reclaiming German-speaking territories which were originally a part of Germany anyway. But that's a whole different ball game to ethnic cleansing or genocide. Maybe you should avoid these irrelevant examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 The simple point of this thread is that Israel building permanent settlements in the West Bank and creating a defacto border through the various peace walls are not conducive to a peace settlement. They are illegal, increase resentment and anger, are only being pursued because a very right wing and religious faction in Israeli politics demands a right to rule a historic Israel very different from the reality of populations living in these areas. Jews building houses is not conducive to peace? Why is it okay for Manx, British, French, Arab, etc, to build houses, but if a Jew builds a house it's WW3? They are not illegal at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I would be interested to know what inspired 'F*chdich' to choose such an obscene user name? And why German? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I would be interested to know what inspired 'F*chdich' to choose such an obscene user name? And why German? It doesn't take much guesswork -- he's a grade C+ troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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