Lxxx Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 SNP just think they'll get bailed out by the EU instead of the UK - what sort of independence is that? Why can't they bail themselves out? If they are a sovereign nation they have the ability to print their own currency, rather than seek a debt-based currency from a central bank. It's been tried. The markets are never fooled. Neither are the bankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 SNP just think they'll get bailed out by the EU instead of the UK - what sort of independence is that? Why can't they bail themselves out? If they are a sovereign nation they have the ability to print their own currency, rather than seek a debt-based currency from a central bank. It's been tried. The markets are never fooled. Neither are the bankers. No, but they fooled many! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreidel Dreidelsohn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 SNP just think they'll get bailed out by the EU instead of the UK - what sort of independence is that? Why would Scotland need to be bailed out by anyone? The Scots have always been a smart and industrious people; if anyone is able to run a country, they can. What is it with English civil servants who think they're god's administrative gift to the world, like nobody can run a country but them? India is another country of very smart and industrious people. The exact same arguments were being said about India during their independence struggle. Oh, they can't possibly run the country by themselves, was what we were told. Now look at them - a world superpower. I don't personally support independence, as I think it will lead to a race to the bottom with corporate taxation, but if they're going to do it then I wish them luck and hope they will prove you all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 India is another country of very smart and industrious people. The exact same arguments were being said about India during their independence struggle. Oh, they can't possibly run the country by themselves, was what we were told. Now look at them - a world superpower. Hmmm. Try searching Google Images for Indian Wiring. Doesn't look to me like they'll be taking over the world any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hmmm. Try searching Google Images for Indian Wiring. Doesn't look to me like they'll be taking over the world any time soon. Lol. I bet they're in less debt than the MEA though! And cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Corporate taxation is almost irrelevant because a race to the bottom means it will disappear. Besides, a well run corporation pays little or no corporation tax anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreidel Dreidelsohn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Corporate taxation is almost irrelevant because a race to the bottom means it will disappear. Besides, a well run corporation pays little or no corporation tax anyway. Well, taxation in general, and also workers' pay. England and Scotland will end up in a race to the bottom to beg the nice corporations to please please please come and employ their citizens with ever-decreasing pay. Just look at the United States where even medium-sized businesses are able to manipulate states to compete with each other to offer them subsidies, deregulation and the ability to pay workers less. And dare anybody come in and talk about labour rights and they threaten to pull out of the state and go to another one less concerned about labour rights. Can't you see how that is a race to the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yes, of course. But the populations keep on patronising such businesses so are their own worst enemy. Look at Amazon that everyone is so fond of. Disgraceful organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 At least Amazon aren't rip-off merchants. I bought a DVD from HMV last week and it was £3.99 more than one Amazon. If the argument is that they have staff and rental costs, maybe they should just close down their business or change it to adapt. I'd much rather it if online media made films cheaper. Why does iTunes charge more for a film than the physical DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EORH Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Why doesn't the IOM join up with Scotland and become one nation, we couldn't do any worse tied to England as we are, only trouble is we signed our rights away over oil and drilling for it to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 At least Amazon aren't rip-off merchants. I bought a DVD from HMV last week and it was £3.99 more than one Amazon. If the argument is that they have staff and rental costs, maybe they should just close down their business or change it to adapt. I'd much rather it if online media made films cheaper. Why does iTunes charge more for a film than the physical DVD? I am talking about staff and tax exploitation that is normally close to your heart. Or does your concern not extend to when you are the one getting the consequent low price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Why doesn't the IOM join up with Scotland and become one nation, we couldn't do any worse tied to England as we are, only trouble is we signed our rights away over oil and drilling for it to England. When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 On a positive note Scotland has received international support for an independence vote! ...... The downside is that this support is from North Korea...... Apparently they like Scotch Whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 SNP just think they'll get bailed out by the EU instead of the UK - what sort of independence is that? Why would Scotland need to be bailed out by anyone? The Scots have always been a smart and industrious people; if anyone is able to run a country, they can. What is it with English civil servants who think they're god's administrative gift to the world, like nobody can run a country but them? India is another country of very smart and industrious people. The exact same arguments were being said about India during their independence struggle. Oh, they can't possibly run the country by themselves, was what we were told. Now look at them - a world superpower. I don't personally support independence, as I think it will lead to a race to the bottom with corporate taxation, but if they're going to do it then I wish them luck and hope they will prove you all wrong. have you ever been to india? its a bit like the iom although india have better healthcare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Why doesn't the IOM join up with Scotland and become one nation, we couldn't do any worse tied to England as we are, only trouble is we signed our rights away over oil and drilling for it to England. because the rock is owned by the crown. you just pay rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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