Flat Earth?

[paul's got wright]

[paul's got wright]

[Mr. Sausages]

prove it or stop talking a load of sausages

I don't recognise your authority.

[Bobbie Bobster]

Do the Cart-man!

[Chinahand]

this thread as proven absolutely, people just believe what they are told.

 

 

what would the criteria be? regurgitating what you were told? that's not really intelligence.

 

Who's just telling people? Youtube?

 

Science works by you being able to do the experiments other people have done and hence be able to check whether what they've said is actually what happens.

 

You have been told things that is true, but you've also been shown how to go out and check these things for yourself ... relying on youtube to spoon feed you information is no substitute to actually making some efforts to do the experiments to show how the position of stars varies with latitude, or how the horizon changes with altitude.

 

These simple experiments would give you results the flat earth cannot explain.

[Chinahand]

Hee hee, I've just thought of another experiment where a flat earth can't provide any explanation - the duration of the sunrise or sunset.

 

I've already given an example where you start lying down on a beach watching the sunset and when you see the last light of the sun disappear over the horizon you start a stop watch and stand up, raising the height of your eye and hence seeing further over the horizon - the top of the sun will appear again, and then sink a second time under the horizon, as it disappears you stop the stop watch.

 

You can use the time difference to calculate the radius of the earth, but doing so needs you to know your latitude as the time it takes for the sun to sink below the horizon depends upon how far you are from the equator - on the equator the sun drops straight down at 90 degrees to the horizon and disappears quickly, the closer you get to the poles the sun sinks at an ever more oblique angle taking longer and longer to set - until above the antarctic/arctic circles it actually moves parallel to the horizon and never sets.

 

Here's a nice chart showing ideal sunset times. The flat earth has no explanation whatsoever as to why the sunset time varies with latitude, and cannot explain these results.

 

Of course you've got to account for refraction which will effect the results a little bit - and here's a lovely paper where some astronomers recorded 244 sunrises and 135 sunsets to examine how significantly refraction effects the results, a lovely example of the patience science requires.

 

Here's a really nice paper which provides calculations for both a non-refracting simple situation and a more complex calculation involving refraction to calculate the radius of the earth.

 

This video below uses the Burj Khalifa to discuss how sunset times change with altitude - again something that cannot be explained with just a flat earth.

 

All these methods are really simple to be replicated, all you need is a sunset and a watch.

 

Good clear science to show the bulk shape of the earth.

 

But for some strange reason some people rather just follow what people say on Youtube rather than refute their nonsense by actually doing some experiments.

 

What a shame.

[paul's got wright]

 

prove it or stop talking a load of sausages

I don't recognise your authority.

 

i'm not disguising it

[paul's got wright]

Hee hee, I've just thought of another experiment where a flat earth can't provide any explanation - the duration of the sunrise or sunset.

 

I've already given an example where you start lying down on a beach watching the sunset and when you see the last light of the sun disappear over the horizon you start a stop watch and stand up, raising the height of your eye and hence seeing further over the horizon - the top of the sun will appear again, and then sink a second time under the horizon, as it disappears you stop the stop watch.

 

You can use the time difference to calculate the radius of the earth, but doing so needs you to know your latitude as the time it takes for the sun to sink below the horizon depends upon how far you are from the equator - on the equator the sun drops straight down at 90 degrees to the horizon and disappears quickly, the closer you get to the poles the sun sinks at an ever more oblique angle taking longer and longer to set - until above the antarctic/arctic circles it actually moves parallel to the horizon and never sets.

 

Here's a nice chart showing ideal sunset times. The flat earth has no explanation whatsoever as to why the sunset time varies with latitude, and cannot explain these results.

 

Of course you've got to account for refraction which will effect the results a little bit - and here's a lovely paper where some astronomers recorded 244 sunrises and 135 sunsets to examine how significantly refraction effects the results, a lovely example of the patience science requires.

 

Here's a really nice paper which provides calculations for both a non-refracting simple situation and a more complex calculation involving refraction to calculate the radius of the earth.

 

This video below uses the Burj Khalifa to discuss how sunset times change with altitude - again something that cannot be explained with just a flat earth.

 

All these methods are really simple to be replicated, all you need is a sunset and a watch.

 

Good clear science to show the bulk shape of the earth.

 

But for some strange reason some people rather just follow what people say on Youtube rather than refute their nonsense by actually doing some experiments.

 

What a shame.

you'll never get in mbesa with that attitude china

[paul's got wright]

 

this thread as proven absolutely, people just believe what they are told.

 

 

what would the criteria be? regurgitating what you were told? that's not really intelligence.

 

Who's just telling people? Youtube?

 

Science works by you being able to do the experiments other people have done and hence be able to check whether what they've said is actually what happens.

 

You have been told things that is true, but you've also been shown how to go out and check these things for yourself ... relying on youtube to spoon feed you information is no substitute to actually making some efforts to do the experiments to show how the position of stars varies with latitude, or how the horizon changes with altitude.

 

These simple experiments would give you results the flat earth cannot explain.

 

i know how science works china. am doin science

[tameelf]

NIST dont do science mythbusters wont touch 911

[mojomonkey]

NIST dont do science mythbusters wont touch 911

 

What's NIST?

[Uhtred]

Hee hee, I've just thought of another experiment where a flat earth can't provide any explanation - the duration of the sunrise or sunset.

 

I've already given an example where you start lying down on a beach watching the sunset and when you see the last light of the sun disappear over the horizon you start a stop watch and stand up, raising the height of your eye and hence seeing further over the horizon - the top of the sun will appear again, and then sink a second time under the horizon, as it disappears you stop the stop watch.

 

You can use the time difference to calculate the radius of the earth, but doing so needs you to know your latitude as the time it takes for the sun to sink below the horizon depends upon how far you are from the equator - on the equator the sun drops straight down at 90 degrees to the horizon and disappears quickly, the closer you get to the poles the sun sinks at an ever more oblique angle taking longer and longer to set - until above the antarctic/arctic circles it actually moves parallel to the horizon and never sets.

 

Here's a nice chart showing ideal sunset times. The flat earth has no explanation whatsoever as to why the sunset time varies with latitude, and cannot explain these results.

 

Of course you've got to account for refraction which will effect the results a little bit - and here's a lovely paper where some astronomers recorded 244 sunrises and 135 sunsets to examine how significantly refraction effects the results, a lovely example of the patience science requires.

 

Here's a really nice paper which provides calculations for both a non-refracting simple situation and a more complex calculation involving refraction to calculate the radius of the earth.

 

This video below uses the Burj Khalifa to discuss how sunset times change with altitude - again something that cannot be explained with just a flat earth.

 

All these methods are really simple to be replicated, all you need is a sunset and a watch.

 

Good clear science to show the bulk shape of the earth.

 

But for some strange reason some people rather just follow what people say on Youtube rather than refute their nonsense by actually doing some experiments.

 

What a shame.

Burn the unbeliever with his evil satanic physics and mathematics...the instruments of beelzebub...of course the earth is flat.

 

Cheers

 

Gerry, Paul etc etc.

[Bobbie Bobster]

 

NIST dont do science mythbusters wont touch 911

 

What's NIST?

 

If only there was some sort of networked database with natural...oh forget it.

 

Nice social media logo, tho!

 

[Chinahand]

 

 

NIST dont do science mythbusters wont touch 911

 

What's NIST?

 

If only there was some sort of networked database with natural...oh forget it.

 

Nice social media logo, tho!

 

 

Methinks Tameelf has got lost again - he's clearly trying to find this thread but it seems he wasn't able to distinguish his conspiracy theories so posted in this one.

 

He also seems not to have been able to use the networked database alluded to by Bobbie to find this page.

 

It's slightly quaint he thinks the Mythbusters TV show is relevant to understanding the issues.

[paul's got wright]

 

Hee hee, I've just thought of another experiment where a flat earth can't provide any explanation - the duration of the sunrise or sunset.

 

I've already given an example where you start lying down on a beach watching the sunset and when you see the last light of the sun disappear over the horizon you start a stop watch and stand up, raising the height of your eye and hence seeing further over the horizon - the top of the sun will appear again, and then sink a second time under the horizon, as it disappears you stop the stop watch.

 

You can use the time difference to calculate the radius of the earth, but doing so needs you to know your latitude as the time it takes for the sun to sink below the horizon depends upon how far you are from the equator - on the equator the sun drops straight down at 90 degrees to the horizon and disappears quickly, the closer you get to the poles the sun sinks at an ever more oblique angle taking longer and longer to set - until above the antarctic/arctic circles it actually moves parallel to the horizon and never sets.

 

Here's a nice chart showing ideal sunset times. The flat earth has no explanation whatsoever as to why the sunset time varies with latitude, and cannot explain these results.

 

Of course you've got to account for refraction which will effect the results a little bit - and here's a lovely paper where some astronomers recorded 244 sunrises and 135 sunsets to examine how significantly refraction effects the results, a lovely example of the patience science requires.

 

Here's a really nice paper which provides calculations for both a non-refracting simple situation and a more complex calculation involving refraction to calculate the radius of the earth.

 

This

below uses the Burj Khalifa to discuss how sunset times change with altitude - again something that cannot be explained with just a flat earth.

 

All these methods are really simple to be replicated, all you need is a sunset and a watch.

 

Good clear science to show the bulk shape of the earth.

 

But for some strange reason some people rather just follow what people say on Youtube rather than refute their nonsense by actually doing some experiments.

 

What a shame.

Burn the unbeliever with his evil satanic physics and mathematics...the instruments of beelzebub...of course the earth is flat.

 

Cheers

 

Gerry, Paul etc etc.

 

cheers uhtred