Chinahand Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 We can also add the Flynn effect to show how IQ is a biased, socially constructed indicator. ... though I will say the fact the Eugenics movement used it isn't relevant. If the Eugenics movement publicised the success of spherical trigonometry in celestial navigation it would say nothing about the fact the earth is a sphere. Bad politics use bad science may in some cases be true but to tar a science as bad because of an association with bad politics is incorrect and does not follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I would say it's bad science anyway, made worse by the association, especially given its tendency towards racial bias. Anyway, I wouldn't fall out about it, particularly when there's other howlers like Myers-Briggs to point and laugh at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Just to break the fourth wall for a moment, there's a lot of debate around the effectiveness of so-called IQ tests. Ther's a long history of difficulties with g (the "general factor" or general intelligence) as it is attempted to be quantified in IQ tests. Difficulties include: Various biases, including social and race, whereby the questions used to assess IQ can be biased towards the particular social or racial group who determines the questions Fitting IQ results to the normal distribution, which fails to allow for threshold effects in the distribution tails Its historical use by the eugenics movement Its narrow measurement parameters, mainly related to language or spatial reasoning and ignoring creativity and social/emotional intelligence Finally, of course, the main difficulty with the IQ measurement is that anyone that tells you unbidden what their specific "IQ" is, is by definition a bit of a dick. Ok, that's it, back to normal service. When the walters called him stupid he whipped the 148 iq out! Gutted arnt ye blobzy x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 George W Bush was in the 120s and he was a daft as a box of rocks. Quoting an IQ number as an appeal to authority is a sure fire way to be on the wrong side of an argument. https://som.yale.edu/news/2009/11/why-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: George W Bush was in the 120s and he was a daft as a box of rocks. Quoting an IQ number as an appeal to authority is a sure fire way to be on the wrong side of an argument. https://som.yale.edu/news/2009/11/why-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart Tell it to someone who gives a shit, like owen Benjamin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 If he believes the world is flat he’s very foolish no matter his IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Chinahand said: If he believes the world is flat he’s very foolish no matter his IQ. He actually said he cant prove its flat and doesnt take that position. He claims to disprove the ball and scoffs at the moon stories x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, paul's got wright said: He actually said he cant prove its flat and doesnt take that position. He claims to disprove the ball and scoffs at the moon stories x Bit of a loon, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, paul's got wright said: He claims to disprove the ball and scoffs at the moon stories x Why do you believe him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Bit of a loon, then. 148 iq, classical musician, both parents teachers, hollywood comedian and actor. Has a wife and 2 children, keeps goats, chickens, ducks etc on his self built homesteading farm. His wife has a degree in engineering. Bought a house for 75 grand an rents it out at 3 grand a month. Receives pay pal by the post through his bears! So yeah a bit of a loon, how observant of you blobzy x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Why do you believe him? I dont! science isnt about beliefs china remember x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, paul's got wright said: 148iq So yeah a bit of a loon Not a complete loon, clearly. One should never judge a person solely by their last dumbass post about FE or iq or whatever. Even you, paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Not a complete loon, clearly. One should never judge a person solely by their last dumbass post about FE or iq or whatever. Even you, paul. Dont worry blobzy i didnt judge you! You're only a casual walter x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, paul's got wright said: I dont! science isnt about beliefs china remember x Rephrase your honour...Why do you agree with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Rephrase your honour...Why do you agree with him? About what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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