the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Anybody watch the excellent value for licence fee money bbc program on slave owners last night ..pretty eye opening- I thought we stopped slavery cos we good eggs and it was wrong ..The equivalent of 17 billion pounds was paid out. No, not to the slaves, but to recompense the slave owners..aand a little more research reveals that the 17 billion paid to these owners came from a Rothschild loan to the government ...so everyone a winner except of course for the slaves and the poor British taxpayer..absolute fucking genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Of course. It was excellent, next weeks will be really filthy, can't wait. MiniBee is doing some history exams so it is really nice to have pause on the terry so we can discuss the program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovering Smackhead Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 At least we got rid of slavery. What the media never tell you is that the Anglo-American slave trade only accounted for 10% of the world slave trade. Instead of living in the past and exclusively obsessing on Britain and America, why not focus on the present day slavery in Islamic countries? Slavery is worse today than it ever was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 think the next one is on tonight the bees .. iplayer at the weekend it is for me and my now considerably less impressed by opulence daughter.. did you search your name? quite a few possibles in my line , though fuck knows where the money went..im certainly not (directly at least) living off the proceeds am happy to say.. as for present day cant really focus too much ex smackhead because i dont know too much about it other than primark, nike , apple etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Here's the iplayer link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b062nqpd/britains-forgotten-slave-owners-1-profit-and-loss The legacy of slavery is everywhere - from the Tate Gallery to the song Penny Lane. Such was our inhumanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 thanks chinahand, please could you also post a link to the searchable database? sorry, i dont know how to.. i do know though that ben affleck tried to block announcement of the fact his direct line hugely profited from the payments, i find that quite disturbing somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovering Smackhead Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Such was our humanity, we got rid of it. It's a credit to the British people and their enlightenment that as Britain became more and more a democracy, slavery and empire became less and less sustainable due to public opinion and were done away with. Prior to that, these things were maintained by the ruling class and were not the fault of ordinary people. As soon as ordinary people had access to real-decision making, we got rid of these things. Not that empire and slavery are one and the same. The Empire was a great force for good in the world, civilising it and spreading democracy, education and building up the infrastructure of other countries. Let's not be so down on ourselves. As I said, Britain and America were only involved in 10% of the worldwide slave trade back in the 18th century, and we weren't really involved in it for all that long. Why not ask who was responsible for the other 90% and who is still responsible for slavery today? History is of little use if you don't use it to do something about the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 thanks chinahand, please could you also post a link to the searchable database? sorry, i dont know how to.. i do know though that ben affleck tried to block announcement of the fact his direct line hugely profited from the payments, i find that quite disturbing somehow Lazy!! It's not exactly difficult to find. Start here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b063db18 and you'll find this: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 thanks me old china . not just lazy, dont know how to post links.. your patience in all matters is actually quite inspiring thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 recovering smackhead who is and who was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 and will we ever become enlightened enough to pay the slaves descendants a similar amount of compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovering Smackhead Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Talking about the Atlantic slave trade, most of it was the Spanish in South and Central America. Muslims were the most involved in slavery. Why do we only ever hear about Britain? The selective history is politically motivated. Today? Most of the slavery is by Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovering Smackhead Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 and will we ever become enlightened enough to pay the slaves descendants a similar amount of compensation? Speak for yourself. My ancestors never owned slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 thanks me old china . not just lazy, dont know how to post links.. your patience in all matters is actually quite inspiring thank you How to link - Go to the website you want to link to. Copy its address. Type the name you want to the link to be embedded into in. Select it. Press the link button - it looks like a chain with a green and white + sign Paste the link into the address box which opens. Simples! Give a man a fish etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 and will we ever become enlightened enough to pay the slaves descendants a similar amount of compensation? Speak for yourself. My ancestors never owned slaves. How do you know? 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 gg gp, 32 ggg gp, 64 gggg gp, 128 ggggg gp. Slavery was abolished in 1833 - that is ggggg gp territory for most of us. You know details of all these people. Sceptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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