Donald Trumps Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 All the big mansions on the outskirts of Ramsey were built by Liverpool slavers Wonder what the Manx involvement was in this terrible trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone else think Spook is really just a massive troll? Yet again. Is it REALLY so difficult to realise that if someone has views that are non-PC and run against the present trend is not a 'troll' be it massive or anorexic? There is not being PC and there is being bigoted, xenophobic, homophobic, racist, etc. I think it hard to be believe that someone could hold all the views you do for real and can only assume that you like saying contrary things for the fun of it. For example, in this thread you suggest that those who had slaves removed from them should have been compensated but those that were actually the slaves should not. That cannot be the position of any human being with an once of decency in them, let alone one who claims to be a Christian. Here we go AGAIN. I'm NOT bigoted, I have firmly held views based on experience and what is taking place in the world today. That is not being bigoted. I am NOT xenophobic. I have a pride in my nationality and race. I am NOT homophobic, like so many people I find same sex intimacy obnoxious. I am NOT racist, I simply do not accept that everyone is equal irrespective of race. Some races are better at siome things than others. Is that so wrong? That's got to be trolling, claiming not to be something and then pretty much stating the dictionary definition of that action in defence. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bigot http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/xenophobia?q=xenophobic http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/homophobia?q=homophobic http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Wonder what the Manx involvement was in this terrible trade? its still going on- £80 for a 50 hour week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The reason that the name Rothschild is played on is to attempt to introduce a jew involvement I more or less agree. And if not Jews in the specific racial or cultural sense - then certainly it is about blaming international-financiers and imaginary elites. Which has been code for Jew throughout most of the past two centuries. Which is also what the so called anti-capitalists and populist conspiracy theorists do when they complain about "banksters", fractional-reserve, Zionism etc. We've been here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 There's tons of Manx slavery links. It was just done at the time. There's a quite famous one called Hugh Crowe, that said it's better to be a slave on a cotton plantation than a bog standard worker in Britain with great examples. Some quotes on here are basic repeats of what people say now - the Rich get richer, and poor work hours a week for a measly existence (obviously the measly existence is a bit better now, but the rich are much better off):https://thewildpeak.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/black-slaves-white-slaves-the-world-according-to-captain-hugh-crow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Typical hand-wringing, heart-bleeding BBC. We are such terrible people that we should all supplicate ourselves before the entire world forever. Government intends to castrate them. Good. Sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Whether you view something as left or right wing depends on your starting viewpoint really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Whether you view something as left or right wing depends on your starting viewpoint really It also depends on a person's age which also affects ones political and social opinions. Generally as people gain life experience they move to the right. I suppose it's where learning and exposure to the world moves most folk from idealism to realism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone else think Spook is really just a massive troll? Yet again. Is it REALLY so difficult to realise that if someone has views that are non-PC and run against the present trend is not a 'troll' be it massive or anorexic? Those anorexic troll's are bit thin on the ground these days ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 I like you spook but your age shows in your views ..too late to change that I do actually feel you a decent person just a little naive..I would imagine your kids on a knife edge when their mates were round in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Whether you view something as left or right wing depends on your starting viewpoint really It also depends on a person's age which also affects ones political and social opinions. This is very true. In my teens I had communist views, but you learn. Of course there was nothing like the den of liberals at the BBC and elsewhere in those days pumping out the slanted propaganda. However, to think that the BBC today has a right wing bias, you would have to be standing somewhere to the left of Marx himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Whether you view something as left or right wing depends on your starting viewpoint really It also depends on a person's age which also affects ones political and social opinions. This is very true. In my teens I had communist views, but you learn. Of course there was nothing like the den of liberals at the BBC and elsewhere in those days pumping out the slanted propaganda. However, to think that the BBC today has a right wing bias, you would have to be standing somewhere to the left of Marx himself. or in the snp...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I like you spook but your age shows in your views ..too late to change that I do actually feel you a decent person just a little naive..I would imagine your kids on a knife edge when their mates were round in the past. I made an effort not to push my opinions onto my kids though I did try to install my values where what I considered important such as earning their own living, honesty in all things, self respect and so forth and although we both educated our kids in Christianity and Christian values unlike some we didn't push it down their throats unlike some people we know who actually tied up their kids garden swing on Sunday. Now the older one keeps his values and regularly attends church at least once a year (!) while the other has become a Pastafarian! If he actually has or not I'm not sure, he may be just trying to wind up his old man! Bloomin' kids! But no, I didn't push my beliefs onto my kids. What they took they took because they wanted to and as for their mates ----- what little we had to do with them was usually constrained to passing out fizzy drinks and sandwiches and otherwise keeping out of the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swaraj Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The reason that the name Rothschild is played on is to attempt to introduce a jew involvement I more or less agree. And if not Jews in the specific racial or cultural sense - then certainly it is about blaming international-financiers and imaginary elites. Which has been code for Jew throughout most of the past two centuries. Which is also what the so called anti-capitalists and populist conspiracy theorists do when they complain about "banksters", fractional-reserve, Zionism etc. We've been here before. I just found it peculiar that the bank which bankrolled government spending on something should be so specifically mentioned, as if it had any importance which bank it was. If it had been HSBC or Barclays, I doubt he'd have mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Well it certainly wouldn't have drawn you out into defending them if it was HSBC or barclays would it ..like I say, thought it was a genius way of taking money from the ordinary person to give to the elite whilst trousering a pretty profit for themselves ..respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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