guzzi Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Chinahand, I agree. A lot of the metalwork seems very sharp and corrosion free, but at one point in the video rusty steel plates are shown. The suggestion about anachronistic Russian spelling is in Swedish, a language I can't speak, but if true, that might be an indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It could be a dangerous situation in the future. For now, I think Putin is feeling his way, but he is smart and more cautious than he is generally given credit for. He will respond better to strength than weakness. Unfortunately, EU leaders are weakness personified. That's just what the world needs, another Cold War, with military spending to blank cheque levels of crazy. As I work in SIGINT all I can say is 'bring on on' And as long as it's purely intercept rather than direction finding you may survive longer than 10 mins if it all kicks off It's everything sweety Oh dear, deary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thank fuck you in cornwall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thank fuck you in cornwall He'll see the subs coming down the Irish Sea with his SIGINT setup in his bedroom....next to his picture of the Isle of Man that he cries himself to sleep looking at every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thank fuck you in cornwall Verb please Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M 2.0 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Do they still have that area mined (Cornwall, not Sweden) they found 3 U-Boats there didn't they? Have the Russians put any significant investment into any military tech recently? I recall a news story a while back about them overflying the Scottish coast in what looked like the old Bear planes that were god knows how old back in the 1980's when they last used to do all that kind of thing. The west seem to have kept up with technical advancements in most areas (albeit on a smaller scale than the past, the RN seems to have taken a pretty big hit in vessel numbers but are at least replacing with world leading technology). What have the ruskies got (I'm not really up to speed with it all these days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think Putin is spending the entire GNP on it except for about 4 Rubles nowadays. Yes. A lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Briefly: the Russians are excellent engineers, highly advanced and adventurous in their military hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 They've got some new fighters (Su-34) and new tanks (T-14 Armata). The Su-34 is a very good aircraft, and the T-14 is a new tank, so untested in battle. Realistically though they're still using older stuff. They have a maintenance problem with their older stuff, and have lost 5 aircraft this month in crashes already that I've noticed, so it's probably more. Navy wise, they have a lot - you'd need all of Europe pulling together to fight against the Russian Navy. Wouldn't stand a chance against the Americans though. Their T-95 Bear (The bombers you often see buzzing the coasts in the papers) are having a crap time of it too, with the fleet grounded again after numerous mishaps http://www.janes.com/article/52962/russian-bear-bombers-set-to-be-grounded-again-following-far-east-crash And their currency is suffering drastically against the low oil price and the Euro and Dollar (1 GBP = 93 Russian Rubels, up from 50 rubels to the 1 GBP 2 years ago.) Realistically they could cause a hell of a lot of damage but the border states are the ones who would suffer most before Europe kicked it's ass into gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Do they still have that area mined (Cornwall, not Sweden) they found 3 U-Boats there didn't they? Have the Russians put any significant investment into any military tech recently? I recall a news story a while back about them overflying the Scottish coast in what looked like the old Bear planes that were god knows how old back in the 1980's when they last used to do all that kind of thing. The west seem to have kept up with technical advancements in most areas (albeit on a smaller scale than the past, the RN seems to have taken a pretty big hit in vessel numbers but are at least replacing with world leading technology). What have the ruskies got (I'm not really up to speed with it all these days). Don't get hung up on the age of the kit. The Tu-95 'Bear' entered service in 1956. The Boeing B-52 'Stratofortress' entered service in 1955. All the Tu-95s in service were built in the '80s and '90s. The USAF intends to keep the B-52 in service until 2045, when the type will have been in service 90 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 On the SIGINT side alone they have at least 6 divisions compared to the UK 's one regiment( plus a couple of amateur walter mitty type pedantic chancers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 its the 100's of old Russian nuclear subs rusting somewhere up north you should be worried about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Russia threatened Sweden with war the other day if they even considered joining NATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well, I am surprised, but the Swedish military is saying it's been down there 100 years. Colour me sceptical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 On the SIGINT side alone they have at least 6 divisions compared to the UK 's one regiment( plus a couple of amateur walter mitty type pedantic chancers) The Russian military communications are not bad, their SIGINT is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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